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June 23[edit]

Problematic category[edit]

The question has come up whether Bobby Fischer should be in Category:Jewish chess players. There has been some discussion of this at Talk:Bobby Fischer#Category:Jewish_chess_players, and I venture to say that we have not come to a conclusion. The circumstances are that he was born to a Jewish mother, but he explicitly rejected Judaism in adulthood. I wonder if there are general rules that can be followed with categories that are potentially problematic in this way. (I also wonder if the Help Desk is the most appropriate place for me to ask about this. If there is a better place, I'd be happy to go there.) Bruce leverett (talk) 02:24, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Bruce leverett: Where it was being discussed (on the talk page of the article) is the best place, since each individual subject will have different rationale for the categories. Since you brought it up, though, I'll weigh in there. Orville1974talk 03:53, 23 June 2019 (UTC)


help me convert the BS map to Route map Template:VIP Road
Saha ( talk ) 09:53, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

@Arnabsaha2212: Which article? Here is the BS page. -Arch dude (talk) 15:52, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
@Arch dude: Template:VIP Road this one. the map is BS-map. i want to convert it into Routemap
Saha ( talk ) 16:23, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
@Arnabsaha2212: you have still not provided a link to whatever "BS-map" is, and I am confused (my usual state, I admit). Apparently, you have a map somewhere named "BS-map", and you wish to convert it into a something named "Routemap" that is similar to Template:VIP Road, presumably to add to some article named ????. Is this correct? -Arch dude (talk)
@Arch dude: I made the map Template:VIP Road in BSmap format. but i want to change it into Routemap format. I want help regarding that. Saha ( talk ) 16:40, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
@Arnabsaha2212:OK. You created {{VIP Road}}, and it uses {{BS-map}}, but you now wish to use {{Routemap}} instead. That is a fairly specialized area of expertise. I recommend you ask on the talk page of Template:Routemap, which is at Template talk:Routemap. If no answer after a day or so, ping some of the original creators of Template:Routemap, but remember that some editors take a break in the summer. -Arch dude (talk) 17:04, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
@Arch dude: ok... thanks for the help. :) Saha ( talk ) 17:07, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Can I download this?[edit]

Please tell me if there is a violation of the rules with this file placement - - I also want to upload such a logo, but I don’t know if I’ll break the rules by doing so? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Webseon (talkcontribs) 12:29, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

@Webseon: this requires multiple answers. First: it follows the legal and technical rules for Commons, as it was uploaded by its creator under an appropriate license. This means that you may download, modify, and upload it under that license, and you may use it for any Wikipedia or non-Wikipedia purpose whatsoever if you attribute it. Second: it appears that you may be working on creating an article to use this image in. If so, that article is likely to be deleted. There is really only one requirement for an article: the subject must be notable by our definition. If the subject is notable, we can help you raise its quality. If the subject is not notable, we will delete it, even if it is the most beautiful article that has ever existed on Wikipedia in all other respects. For an organization, see WP:NCORP. -Arch dude (talk) 15:49, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
@Webseon: As a separate issue, If you are creating a new logo for any Wikipedia or non-Wikipedia reason, you should use a scalable format such as SVG instead of a bitmap format like PNG, because SVG remains pretty at all scales while PNG gets ugly if you expand or shrink it. Furthermore, The Pillintrip logo has essentially no "creative elements", so if you change the words and colors, You are free to claim that your new logo is your own work and you will not need to attribute it to the Pillintrip logo, unless you feel that the result really is visually similar to that logo. Note that trademark is separate from copyright and that laws and interpretations vary by jurisdiction.-Arch dude (talk) 16:46, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

editing the title of your own page[edit]

ok so i was making the title of my own wikipedia page/article and I made a mistake and then accidentally pressed the submit title button and I edit in source edit on my nintendo 3DS XL. and then i made the page so how do i edit the title of my page/article in source edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Yoshi (talkcontribs) 15:03, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

@Captain Yoshi: A title change is accomplished with a page move, but before you get that far, I think you need to read Your First Article and use the new user tutorial, as I'm not sure that you understand what subjects merit articles on Wikipedia; Wikipedia is not a game guide. 331dot (talk) 15:06, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

no no what i mean as in source edit is the type of editing i use on wikipedia Captain Yoshi :P 15:11, 23 June 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Yoshi (talkcontribs)

also when you edit wikipedia on nintendo 3DS XL it doesn't let you use visual editing and it doesn't let you use references and it doesn't let you use alot of things. Captain Yoshi :P 15:22, 23 June 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Yoshi (talkcontribs)

@Captain Yoshi:As I said, changing the title of a page is accomplished with a page move, regardless of how you are editing or on what device. You can request a page move at Requested Moves, but as I said, your draft is not suitable as a Wikipedia article. 331dot (talk) 15:37, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Website parameter in citations[edit]

So, I was previously citing websites like this in the website paremeter part of the cite template; if the URL was, I put Billboard. I was looking at someone else's edits and realized that they were just repeating the website URL (and assumed that this was the correct way to do things). I went to fix a whole bunch of my references that way in this diff. Now I'm just confused about whether or not I was fixing anything, as I've seen both ways used and I'm not sure which method (or something else I haven't being doing) is correct. Clovermoss (talk) 16:01, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Clovermoss. The place to look for things like this is the Template itself: in this case Template:Cite web. If you look there, you will find:
  • website: Title of website; may be wikilinked. Displays in italics. Aliases: work
The URL should go in the 'url' parameter. --ColinFine (talk) 16:36, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
@ColinFine: Okay. So what I was doing earlier was right (I'm going to self-revert the changes then). I'm happy I haven't been doing it wrong all this time, because it would have been a pain to go through all my past contributions to fix. Clovermoss (talk) 16:40, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
@Clovermoss: I see both types used a lot (ie. and BBC). I wouldn’t say it is very important which is used however, as said by ColinFine its probably more user-friendly to use the website name (BBC as opposed to I hope that helps, Willbb234 (talk) 16:56, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

Many of those 'things' are periodicals. When has an article about the 'thing' it is relatively easy to decide what cs1|2 template and parameter to use for that 'thing':
these are magazines so {{cite magazine}} and |magazine=:
Hollywood Reporter
Rolling Stone
these are newspapers so {{cite news}} and |newspaper=:
Boston Globe
Chicago Tribune
The New York Times
The Seattle Times
The Washington Post
and websites so {{cite web}} and |website=:
Ultimate Classic Rock – presumably the citation isn't to the eponymous radio program
I don't know about these:
NYS Music – claims it is 'New York's music news source' so {{cite news}} and |work=
Pitchfork – yeah, article title says 'website'; article prose says magazine; sigh, editors there need to straighten that up
The Daily Memphian – online newspaper so {{cite news}} and |newspaper=
I think that it is better to use the periodical's name when that is known. Periodical names are, I think, more easily read and understood than domain names (ajc.comThe Atlanta Journal-Constitution).
Trappist the monk (talk) 17:20, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Patrick Beurard-Valdoye[edit]

While moving a stub page about a living French poet from the sandbox, auto spelling changed the first part of the surname to an incorrect spelling before I was able to stop it. Can someone please help restore the correct spelling of Patrick Beurard-Valdoye from the current incorrect Patrick Beard-Valdoye, before it can be linked to the original French entry? Thank you.--Po Mieczu (talk) 17:31, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

I have moved it to Patrick Beurard-Valdoye without leaving a redirect. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:56, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Alfie Kilgour[edit]

Alfie Kilgour — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlfieKilgour (talkcontribs) 17:48, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, is there a question you would like to ask? Willbb234 (talk) 17:58, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Note: There was an earlier version of this thread where the OP (stating they were Kilgour) raised issues with height / weight at Alfie Kilgour. That request was subsequently removed by them. As the height appears to be 'sourced' to Soccerway here, albeit as an external link. It will need independent reliable sourcing to change it. Weight does not appear to be mentioned in the current version of the page but is also in the Soccerway profile. Eagleash (talk) 18:13, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

I want to become a good faith contributor[edit]

ok so i want to become a good faith contributor but i need a list of articles that have not been made yet and a list of articles that need to be edited it dosen't have to be a long list so can anybody put those 2 lists on my talk page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Yoshi (talkcontribs) 20:16, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

@Captain Yoshi: You can visit the Community Portal which has lists of areas that need work. You may also want to use the new user tutorial to help you learn more about Wikipedia and editing. 331dot (talk) 20:22, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

ok thanks. Captain Yoshi :P 20:28, 23 June 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Yoshi (talkcontribs)

i need help[edit]

ok so i want to make a new wikipedia page but im gonna need help with it so I need someone who is good with using references in editing and the page im gonna make is going to be about the pokemon Groudon so I only need one person to help me if you want to help tell me on my talk page so whos willing to help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Yoshi (talkcontribs) 20:41, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

If you think that the article will get rejected it wont. Why? it'll have references and because I am an expert when it comes to Pokemon. - Captain Yoshi :P 20:59, 23 June 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Yoshi (talkcontribs)

@Captain Yoshi: In order to have an article about an individual Pokemon, (like Pikachu), there must be significant coverage of it in independent reliable sources like the news which show how the Pokemon is notable. Pikachu merits an article because it is extensively used in films, promotional materials, and other outlets. That isn't the case with all Pokemon. 331dot (talk) 21:03, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Well then that means if theres an article of Rayquaza then Rayquaza was in the news. Groudon was probably in the news when Pokemon Omega Ruby came out. - Captain Yoshi :P 21:10, 23 June 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Yoshi (talkcontribs)

Then you should gather at least three independent reliable sources that have coverage of Groudon itself, not just as part of a game. Is Groudon extensively written about as a character? Is it the the featured aspect of a film? Does it get lots of news coverage for being used in advertising? Things like that. 331dot (talk) 21:21, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi @Captain Yoshi: Before you start, please take a look at this draft article on Porygon and its related talk page. Reviewing those will give you a better understanding of how difficult it can be to write an article about an individual Pokemon species. Even with all of the work and effort put into it, the article has still not met the requirements to be published in the mainspace (and most likely never will, because the subject of the article, Porygons, do not meet the the notability guidelines). Orville1974talk 21:23, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

It wont be that difficult, since Groudon is pretty popular and is seen way more in commercials since it is a legendary. The Porygon article was rejected most likely because it isn't important to the Pokemon franchise. - Captain Yoshi :P 22:02, 23 June 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Yoshi (talkcontribs)

Hi again @Captain Yoshi: This is what the Groudon article looked like[1] before it was merged and redirected to the List of generation III Pokémon. The advice at the Porygon Talk page will help focus your efforts on reliable sources, verifiability, and demonstrating Groudon's notability. If you can find enough significant coverage to meet Wikipedia's standards, you can start drafting your article by following Articles for Creation and Your First Article. Orville1974talk 22:14, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Are you good at referencing when it comes to editing? If you are, can you help me make the article? - Captain Yoshi :P 23:01, 23 June 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Yoshi (talkcontribs)

@Captain Yoshi: this page has all the help you'll need Help:Referencing for beginners. Please review the message I left on your talk about signing your post, you're still not doing it. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:10, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

theres one BIG problem: I edit on my nintendo 3DS and it DOES NOT LET YOU REFERENCE. - Captain Yoshi :P 23:18, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

In what way will it not allow you to type references. Does the keyboard not have the characters < and > to type <ref> ? Dbfirs 06:28, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Submitting a photo[edit]

If anyone can help me, I am just trying to find out if I can add a photo of a wonderful Baculite specimen to the Baculite entry.

The piece, attributed to the Pierre Shale--by a field expert at U.C.'s Museum of Paleontology, seems rare and special because: of it's comparatively colorful, intact mother-of-pearl surface, as well as because it shows signs of having been "worked" and been a spirit/prestige item of a Coastanoan clan. It looks much different than those photos already displayed.

Thanks, to anyone who can advise me on just submitting a photo to an article, while leaving the text/substance of the article otherwise unchanged. Thanks, for source wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HBD Bear Area (talkcontribs) 23:29, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

@HBD Bear Area: You can request an upload here WP:FFU. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:31, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello, HBD Bear Area. If you took the picture yourself, so you hold the copyright, then you may upload it to Wikimedia Commons yourself, releasing it under an appropriate licence as you go. IIRC, when you have uploaded it to Commons, it will tell you what you need to do to add it to a Wikipedia article. See Help:Upload.
If it is not your image, then there are copyright questions: unless the copyright holder has already released it under a licence such as CC-BY-SA, you will need to get them to donate it in order to use it in Wikipedia: see donating copyright materials. --ColinFine (talk) 07:55, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Merci, for the help. I'm not blissful about my ignorance. I found the thing in my own back yard and took my own photos. It's nice thing for people to see and I'll share the photo. I can be a pretty slow, distracted individual, but I'll try to learn my wiki manners/methods. Thanks, again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:36, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

June 24[edit]

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref too many keys[edit]

Dear Wikipeadia team! Thank you for this opportunity to ask you for help! I tried to edit the Great White Brotherhood page and accidentally removed link 1 (Benjamin Creme), and now it gives this message ( Cite error: The <ref> tag has too many names (see the help page).), I tried to undo, but the system didn't let me do it. I apologise for inconvinience and would really appreciate your help in fixing this issue. This is the page Thank you so much for your understanding, Best Wishes, Amorelina — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amorelina (talkcontribs) 00:13, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Amorelina: It's fixed. Does the individual you're adding already have an article about them in Wikipedia? It's important to include a reference to a source when adding or changing article content. Also, I've left a message on your talk page(s) regarding multiple account use. Orville1974talk 00:23, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Orville1974! Thank you for your help! The individual I was adding doesn't have a Wikipedia article. Since some of individuals in that article also don't have a Wikipedia page, I assumed that reference source is not always required. And I have only one account. Since I'm a new person and just learning, I just repeated the comments of one of the previous editors. Thank you for explaining! Have a good day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amorelina (talkcontribs) 15:56, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge[edit]

Please place ref. number 10 after reference number 7 - this is whare it should be. I cannot do this on my device. Thanks (talk) 03:51, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

That's where it is in the version I just viewed (?). Eagleash (talk) 03:56, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
This is what we see: Another descendant is solicitor Henry Dubs Middleton, who was chairman of the Leeds General Infirmary.[8][9][7][10] Is that what you're referring to? Normally, I would sequence them like this: [7][8][9][10], but it's not necessary. Orville1974talk 03:58, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

article written but no response[edit]

Hi there, I wrote an article on Green Marketing and I have not received any response on it. It is humbly requested to please guide me as I am a new user. Below is the link of my written article on Wikipedia. Also, I would like to know when it will be approved and what will be the process of approval. Your positive response will be highly appreciated.

Regards Omer Canon

Omer Canon (talk) 06:27, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello, Omer. Have you seen the Wikipedia article Green marketing? It might be a better use of your time to try to improve that article. Wikipedia can only have one article for a given title.--Quisqualis (talk) 06:42, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello Omer Canon, to answer your general question, WP:DRAFTS explains how to create and publish a draft article.TSventon (talk) 10:34, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Also, you have to explicitly submit the draft before it will (eventually) be considered, otherwise how would we know when you were done? Clarityfiend (talk) 19:31, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

how to make hub?[edit]

i want to make station hub in BS-map format. please help. Saha ( talk ) 08:16, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Arnabsaha2212: The documentation is at {{BS-map}}. The user community who can help you probably hangs out at Template talk:BS-map. -Arch dude (talk) 13:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
@Arch dude: thanx. i have figured it out Saha ( talk ) 14:36, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge[edit]

Sorry - I have wiped out accidently the first section on this page. It is my device - my fingers ae too big. Sorry Srbernadette (talk) 09:02, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

I have restored it. Eman235/talk 09:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Srbernadette, if this happens again, just click on "History" and "Undo" your last edit. Dbfirs 09:49, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Stable version and editable version[edit]

Can I have both Stable version with highly reliable but not updated often and editable version which anyone can edit, but fact checking and correctness are not guaranteed?Wifik3r8bLk2Zr (talk) 11:51, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

  • Once upon a time, there was the "Wikipedia 1.0" project with the aim to release snapshots of Wikipedia for CD/DVD material plus your goal of a stable version with some additional reliability checks. As far as I can tell, the project went dead about ten years ago, and the last released snapshot was Wikipedia:Version_0.8. I would speculate the reasons include (1) more widespread internet access in developing countries (reducing the interest of an offline version of Wikipedia) and (2) a lot more articles, making careful editorial oversight of even a fraction of them near impossible. TigraanClick here to contact me 13:06, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
@Wifik3r8bLk2Zr: Apparently, the term "stable version" has had many varied meanings, so many that the term is (sort of) deprecated. See Wikipedia:Stable version. Are you referring to Wikipedia:Pending changes? If so, you can see both somehow, but I cannot provide exact details. Please read that page. -Arch dude (talk) 21:32, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
@Wifik3r8bLk2Zr: Please be aware that Wikipedia has no concept of a "highly reliable" version and no formal mechanism to identify such a version. There is no formal group of editors that exerts any type of quality control. Instead, this function is completely distributed to the entire community of editors. This is a frightening concept, but many studies have shown that the overall quality of Wikipedia articles is at least as high as that of some other highly-regarded information sources. So: you should never completely trust Wikipedia, but you should never completely trust any other information, either. The "pending changes protection" discussed above is applied to only a few articles and is used to ensure that changes by new or unregistered users are reviewed: it is seen as an anti-vandalism tool, not as a way to validate information provided by editors in good faith.-Arch dude (talk) 21:57, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Incorrect image[edit]

I uploaded - what I thought to be - an image of Frank "Rocky" Fiegel aka "Popeye". It has since been disclaimed to be of someone else: WWII sailor in the 1940s aboard a ship. I do not know how to propose an image for deletion; but I do know an admin must delete it. I am requesting that this image be deleted on the basis that the information I have attached to it: Frank "Rocky" Feigel is false. Since then, I have found a true image of Feigel in later life that will replace this image. Furthermore, this article proves that the photograph that I mistook is in fact a "fake": Thank you. Maineartists (talk) 12:27, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Maineartists: At Commons, there is a link in the toolbar on the left to nominate for deletion. You can give your reasons for deletion. It may be that the image could be kept but under a different description. Eagleash (talk) 13:06, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
As always, many thanks, Eagleash. Maineartists (talk) 13:16, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Help with creating page for Artist Conrad Jon Godly[edit]


I need some assistance with creating a wikipedia page for Swiss-born artist Conrad Jon Godly. As I am a big fan of his work, and he is quite a prominent contemporary artist, I was very surprised to find he doesn't have a Wikipedia page. I have made several attempts at creating this for him, yet they were unsuccessful due to copy right infringement with a gallery in London. Please could you advise me on what I should I do in order to create this page for him, thus increasing his online identity and presence?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Jessica Nicholls — Preceding unsigned comment added by JNicholls1996 (talkcontribs) 14:49, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi! @JNicholls1996: Based on your previous attempts, it sounds like you haven't properly summarized and/or paraphrased the material from your sources in your own words. These articles should help explain how to include content appropriately: Wikipedia:Plagiarism and WP:REFBEGIN. Here are some sources to get you started.[1][2][3] Orville1974talk 16:03, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Those sources are all interviews with the subject, and so won't help to establish notability. Maproom (talk) 21:47, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
A thing to realise, JNicholls1996, is that Wikipedia is basically not interested in what the subject of an article says about themselves, whether in an interview or anywhere else. It is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have chosen to publish about them, and an article should be nearly 100% based on that. If there is little such independent material published, then it is impossible to write an acceptable article. --ColinFine (talk) 09:27, 25 June 2019 (UTC)


  1. ^ Carter, Felicity. "Artist Conrad Jon Godly On His Upcoming Exhibition In London". Forbes. Retrieved 2019-06-24.
  2. ^ Malby, Poppy. "20 questions with... Conrad Jon Godly". British GQ. Retrieved 2019-06-24.
  3. ^ "Conrad Jon Godly Artist Profile". Centurion Magazine. Retrieved 2019-06-24.

Block conflict[edit]

I just got into a block conflict with myself at "Special:Block/Nemaco". How is this possible? I clicked the block button just once (I'm using mouse buttons on a touchpad and would have heard the button go again if I'd clicked it twice), and there's no indication that anyone else was involved. Nyttend (talk) 22:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Nyttend: That's an admin function. I unlinked the special page to keep from scaring non-admins (such as myself) from getting a scary message by clicking it. I hope there is a place other than the general help desk where your question can be addressed. -Arch dude (talk) 01:29, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
@Nyttend: This looks like a question for WP:VPT. -- John of Reading (talk) 05:23, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Good point; I'll copy this there. Nyttend (talk) 21:57, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Adding a person's name to a city.[edit]

How do I add a person's name as being from a city? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:49, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Does that person have an existing article ? If not, then they will not be considered notable. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:52, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

James Middleton (British businessman)[edit]

There is a small gap between ref number 22 and ref number 23. I cannot fix. please do so if you can. Thanks so much. 2001:8003:D9A2:5501:7D6A:84F9:3593:4851 (talk) 23:51, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

I think you're using a computer with unusual formatting; your message here has two or three spaces between almost every word. There's no space now, so if it were there before, someone's fixed it. Nyttend (talk) 00:28, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

June 25[edit]

Approval of article[edit]

Hi there,

Yesterday I wrote an article on Emotional Marketing and I want to know when it will get approved. Please help me as I am a new contributor to Wikipedia. Your positive response will be highly appreciated. Below is the link to my article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omer Canon (talkcontribs) 05:22, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Also, I am unable to MOVE the page to move it into the Main (article) namespace, as the MOVE option is not showing up. Please help me in this matter too.

Regards Omer Canon

Omer Canon (talk) 05:31, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
The draft reads like publicity material. Are you connected in some way with the topic, or have you copied publicity material? The draft needs to be rewritten in an encyclopaedic tone before it is suitable to be submitted for review. For example, an encyclopaedia does not use the words "we", "our" and "your". I've removed the first two unnecessary boldings. Please remove the remainder. Essays have conclusions; encyclopaedia articles don't. Dbfirs 06:26, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

I have made the suggested changes int eh article. No, I am not associated with any promotional content nor I copied it from anywhere. Please go through the changes. As I already mentioned that I am a new contributor so need your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omer Canon (talkcontribs) 07:51, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Below is the link of my edited article
Omer Canon
Omer Canon (talk) 07:52, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Omer Canon, generally it is advisable to practice editing existing articles before attempting writing a complete article. If you want to improve your article, there is helpful advice in WP:FIRSTARTICLE.TSventon (talk) 09:15, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
The draft article is now more encyclopaedic in tone, but there is further bolding to be removed. I note that we already have an article Emotional branding and I wonder if there is a large overlap in the topics. Dbfirs 17:49, 26 June 2019 (UTC)


I am an editor of Wikipedia. My preferences show that I wish to be notified by email of changes to articles on my watchlist (and other things) and up until yesterday or maybe the weekend this has worked well. However those emails have now stopped. I have been told that my email needs to be confirmed and I have pressed the button to ask for a code to be sent to me to do this. However I have not received this code. I have asked my internet provider(talk talk) who also provide the email service for help without much success so far. It so happens that they appear to have revamped their service in some way this weekend. Can you assist? Please note I am pretty much technically illiterate Spinney Hill (talk) 08:43, 25 June 2019 (UTC) Spinney Hill (talk) 08:45, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

@Spinney Hill: I'm not sure what has happened here, most likely a problem not to do with Wikipedia, so there isn't much anyone here can do. My only suggestion is to create another email (maybe on Gmail, I find Gmail to be reliable) and to go through the process of linking an email with your Wikipedia account again and see if that works. Best wishes, Willbb234 (talk) 12:07, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

All created articles Comment[edit]

Hi, I was wondering if there was a way to generate a list of all created articles on xtools (or otherwise.) My current list only shows the previous 50 created mainspace articles. Is there a way to expand this, or show this info another way? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 10:08, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

I see a link "153 others" after the 50 at your link. You can also click "Articles created" at the bottom of Special:Contributions/Lee_Vilenski. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:31, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Oh, for whatever reason in the past I've always been stuck at 50, with the grayed out link. Works fine now, odd. Thanks. That's a big help. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 10:55, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Lee Vilenski, another option is to go to your contributions and tick the "Only show edits that are page creations" box. You have the option of viewing up to 500 edits on a single page, or by tweaking the URL you can increase it even more. (If I show the last 500 I created, the URL is Just change the "limit=500" to anything as big as "limit=5000", although a massive number will load more slowly.) And of course you can always depend on it working if you're able to get to Special:MyContributions, while the other tool might not work as well; it's just sitting there loading when I click it for myself, even though limit=5000 loaded rather quickly. Nyttend (talk) 21:54, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Pending changes[edit]

I would like to use this script when reviewing pending changes. However, when I see the pending changes, it only shows the diff, not the article with the changes implemented. Can an editor edit the my script so that it shows both the diff and article with the changes implemented? I don't know how to do it myself so I am asking for help. I already asked at WP:VPT and asked DannyS712 on his talk page, but seems unwilling to help me. Can you find someone that is willing to help me? Interstellarity T 🌟 10:59, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Copy the script, (I don't see where you've saved it to your user space), and about 40 lines down, change in your version the 1 to a 0:
  if(pendch_diffonly == null) {
  pendch_diffonly = 1;   <---This number to 0

Orville1974talk 11:32, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Orville1974, I saved it here. I don't where to put it. Can you do it for me? Interstellarity T 🌟 11:55, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Even easier, than the change above. At the 7th line down, change var pendch_diffonly; to var pendch_diffonly=0;
I'll give more details on your talk page (too technical for this help desk). Orville1974talk 12:09, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Orville1974, Thank you. That helps a lot. Interstellarity T 🌟 12:55, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

I need help with a wikipedia article im making and its not groudon[edit]

So i need help with a wikipedia article im making about the pokemon solgaleo and i only need one person to help me and if you wanna help me you gotta be good at referencing when it comes to editing so if you wanna help me message me on my talk page. Who wants to help? (GlitchyGlitchytalk 13:32, 25 June 2019 (UTC))

Hi @Glitchy: It may be a different Pokemon, but I'll share the same advice: Before you start, please take a look at this draft article on Porygon and its related talk page. Reviewing those will give you a better understanding of how difficult it can be to write an article about an individual Pokemon species. Even with all of the work and effort put into it, the article has still not met the requirements to be published in the mainspace (and most likely never will, because the subject of the article, Porygons, do not meet the the notability guidelines). Determining if Solgaleo meet Wikipedia notability standards should be the first step in your research, before you spend a lot of time writing the article. Orville1974talk 13:38, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
@Glitchy: I would add that while other editors are willing to offer their advice and assistance, they aren't going to do your work for you forever. If you intend to write a lot of articles(leaving aside the valid points raised by Orville1974), you would be better off to learn how to reference yourself so you don't have to rely on others. I get the sense that you might be a youth (do NOT tell me your age); you may want to read WP:YOUNG for more information. Have you used the new user tutorial? 331dot (talk) 13:43, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi @Captain Yoshi: I thought you were a different editor based on your updated signature. It may be a different Pokemon, but my advice is the same as last time: Before you start, please take a look at this draft article on Porygon and its related talk page. Reviewing those will give you a better understanding of how difficult it can be to write an article about an individual Pokemon species. Even with all of the work and effort put into it, the article has still not met the requirements to be published in the mainspace (and most likely never will, because the subject of the article, Porygons, do not meet the the notability guidelines). Determining if Solgaleo meet Wikipedia notability standards should be the first step in your research, before you spend a lot of time writing the article. Orville1974talk 13:49, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

I am trying to change my username to glitchy also i know how to reference while editing its just like impossible to do it on a nintendo 3DS. (GlitchyGlitchytalk 14:05, 25 June 2019 (UTC))

And yes I did read the new user tutorial I read that either two days ago or yesterday I also learned how to use wiki markup yesterday. (GlitchyGlitchytalk 14:16, 25 June 2019 (UTC))

Then my suggestion would be that you not use a Nintendo 3DS to edit. You have to be able to adequately participate here regardless of your means of access to the internet. 331dot (talk) 14:25, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Alerts and Notices[edit]

What is difference between as if I received a Alert or a Notice? What is the meaning?K02VZ5d02y832ZN (talk) 14:39, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

@K02VZ5d02y832ZN: I do not know. The two words seem to each have multiple meanings in informal Wikipedia usage, and some of the meanings overlap. Please see Help:Notifications. You see "Alerts" when you click the bell icon at the top on a desktop view. Where are you seeing the "Notice"? -Arch dude (talk) 14:55, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
On my talk page the notice icon is just to the right of the alert "bell" icon. - FlightTime (open channel) 14:58, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
  • 'Alerts' tend to be (from my experience) when an edit is reverted or someone mentions you in a discussion (pings). Notices seem mainly to be 'thank yous' for edits made. Eagleash (talk) 15:42, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
@K02VZ5d02y832ZN: {{ping}} and all of its many aliases invoke a Lua module that causes the Wikimedia software to add an "Alert" message. Various other magical Wikimedia thingees including the "thank" link to a user cause the Wikimedia software to add a "Notification" message. I have no idea where the heck this stuff documented. -Arch dude (talk) 17:30, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
I don't know if this is universal, but I also get something similar to a thanks for pages I've created being linked by other users. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 17:43, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Common Spirit[edit]

Hi, I'm trying to undo a redirect to our organization's page and create a separate article page for CommonSpirit Health. It appears someone created a redirect therefore I'm unable to start a brand new page with new content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CommonspiritBrand (talkcontribs) 17:50, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @CommonspiritBrand: Please see our username and conflict of interest policies, before proceeding. Orville1974talk 17:55, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

changing a company page as an employee?[edit]

I'd like to make the following changes, but want to make sure how to do this all correctly (being that I'm an employee of the company) because I don't wan't the changes to be reverted.

I'd like to make the following changes:

Currently: Quantum Corporation is a manufacturer of data storage devices and systems, including tape drive and disk-based systems. The company's headquarters is in San Jose, California. From its founding in 1980 until 2001, it was also a major disk storage manufacturer (usually second-place in market share behind Seagate), and was based in Milpitas, California. Quantum sold its hard disk drive business to Maxtor in 2001 and now focuses on integrated storage systems.

Suggested: Quantum Corporation provides integrated storage technology and services designed to enable customers to capture, create and share digital content. Quantum’s storage platforms are used to preserve and protect high-resolution video, imagery, industrial IoT and other types of unstructured data. The company’s headquarters is in San Jose, California.

From its founding in 1980 until 2001, it was also a major disk storage manufacturer (usually second-place in market share behind Seagate), and was based in Milpitas, California. Quantum sold its hard disk drive business to Maxtor in 2001 and now focuses on integrated storage systems.

I’m also suggesting that we add a notation about securing financing, preceding the delisting item:

2018 - Quantum Corp. announced the successful completion of a refinance of its current debt facilities.


what is the best way to initiate this changes? How do I properly express my employment at Quantum in order to follow Wiki's best practices? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Picard091488 (talkcontribs) 18:03, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

@Picard091488: This request needs to be made on the article's talk page using {{Request edit}} edit request template. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:09, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi @Picard091488: This page WP:UPE will also explain how to disclose your relationship with Quantum Corporation. Orville1974talk 18:12, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
This question was cross-posted to the Teahouse by the OP. Orville1974talk 18:22, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
And my talk :P - FlightTime (open channel) 18:27, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia Page Missing[edit]

I work with an individual who had a wikipedia page, but it has sense been lost or removed. Is there any way to find out what happened to the previous page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:31, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi IP user.That can depend. What was the person's name? It's quite likely they were not notable enough for a Wikipedia page. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 19:33, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

List of football clubs in England by competitive honours won[edit]

Please this list is ridiculous. Tottenham hotspurs are not 5th in honours etc. Aston Villa are 5th with 23 major trophys. You cannot add Charity shields and stupid cups etc. It has always been based on the Top tier League Title - (Division One/Premier League), FA Cup, League Cup, European Cup\Champions League\ Cup Winners Cup, Inter Cities Fairs Cup, UEFA Cup, Europa League, European Super Cup, World Club Championship. Never has it been based on other minor trophys such as the Full Members Cup, Charity Shield,etc.

This page MUST have been edited by a Tottenham Hotspurs fan. Its ridiculous. Its fake new. Please this Wikipedia page is not worth the words that were written.

Anthony Deakin — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:44, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

When you have a problem with the contents of a page, then edit the page to fix it. Do not remove material that is cited to a reliable source, Do cite reliable sources for material you add. If you are not comfortable with editing the article, then make suggestions on the article's talk page in a new section. If nothing happens, then add the magic incantation {{request edit}} to your suggestion on the talk page. If a Hotspurs fan disputes your suggestions or reverts your edits, then follow WP:DISPUTE. Good Luck! -Arch dude (talk) 03:18, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

June 26[edit]

VPN II[edit]

I had asked this question on 11 June 2019 about the time I created an account while using VPN. I had provided my U.S. university email Later I am informed a proxy IP address is forbidden. I am seeking to use the original name "Borg Master". Is that possible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:FD09:6400:C8F1:2D9A:3BC3:E1CD (talk) 23:01, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi! Borg Master doesn't appear to be taken. You can register an account with that name if you like, and use it if you'd like to start editing as a logged in user. Orville1974talk 23:54, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

VPN III[edit]

Orville1974 Thank for the encouragement. However, when I input "Borg Master", the system says "The username "Borg Master" is too similar to the following usernames: BorgMaster Borgmaster Please choose another username." These are the other names I chose while using VPN, not realizing VPN was forbidden, as I had added/edited previously w/o an account. Is there a time limit for the restriction? It has been months so far.

Sorry to bother you again with all this, but I am rather attached to the monicker.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:FD09:6400:C8F1:2D9A:3BC3:E1CD (talk) 01:04, 26 June 2019 (UTC) 
It's been 6 years since that account was used with no edits. If you are ok with BorgMaster (with no space), go here: WP:Changing username/Usurpations, click the blue button that says Place your request here. Then enter the bold info on the screen that looks like this:
|TARGET NAME  <--- overwrite TARGETNAME with BorgMaster
|reason= YOUR REASON <--- overwrite YOUR REASON with the reason you want to change your name

Then click the publish changes button. It will take about a month for them to approve the name change in order to give the old user a chance to object (although it's unlikely with 0 edits and 6 years since the last activity). Good luck! Orville1974talk 02:19, 26 June 2019 (UTC) VVVV Struck due to PlyrStar93's correction below VVVV. Orville1974talk 17:38, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Such requests should NOT go to global rename requests. WP:ACC may be the place to look at if the IP editor wants an account with such username. -★- PlyrStar93 Message me. 05:20, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Golden Reel Award for Outstanding Achievement in Sound Editing - Dialogue and ADR for Feature Film[edit]

After spending a week researching sources and creating a page specifying the details of the page in the subject heading, it would appear that it has been deleted, and redirected to a mere skimming of the information on this page: Motion Picture Sound Editors. I would care to know why the resources that I found, from reputable sources, were not as useful as this,, as it does not contain the information that I found. Unlike the link that was made to the MPSE homepage, my page for the award contained names of the actual winners, and that of the other nominees. I would like to know what the issue was, and why it was, apparently, not as good as a hagiography of the award.

Hi @TophatCounselor: The editor who redirected the page pointed out that a list for each specific year's subawards was not necessary, and that they had not met WIkipedia notability standards. I noticed that the only source was the mpse website. Notability for stand-alone lists will help explain what they meant. Orville1974talk 03:35, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Why, exactly, were they unnecessary? What, exactly, is necessary? By that varied benchmark, any bit of information can simply be deemed unnecessary, depending on "importance", a rather subjective column. I'm aware that the list that I have provided don't contain some particularly illuminating bits of information, but I found it a bit odd that a public information website is in the business of deleting facts in the name of "importance". P.S. I only used the mpse website as a source during the most recent years, as they were unhelpful in early goings. I used sources from The Hollywood Reporter and Variety, among others, who specialize in the entertainment industry, hence they're usage.

@TophatCounselor: If you have not already done so, please follow the link provided by Orville above. If you still have concerns please raise them with the other editor concerned at the article talk page. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 05:55, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
@TophatCounselor: Also, although "importance" is a vague and subjective criterion, Wikipedia uses "notability" which means roughly "has been covered at length by reliable indepedent sources". There are edge cases, but it is a much less hand-wavy test. MPSE is not an independent source for the award they give; can you maybe find non-WP:ROUTINE mentions in the press? TigraanClick here to contact me 07:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Suppressed file blocking a Commons move via File Importer extension[edit]

I'm attempting to move File:FedEx Office Logo.svg using Extension:FileImporter and I'm getting this error: "Can't import file because at least one of its revisions contains a suppressed file." The file had been a NFC logo previously and was resized to fit NFC guidelines, and the original was deleted file version was deleted per NFC. I suspect that's causing the error. Can I get assistance either un-deleting/un-hiding the previous version or having it moved over to the Commons via a different tool?--The Navigators (talk) 02:36, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Now undeleted. Nyttend (talk) 11:32, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Cite error: A list-defined reference has no name[edit]

This error is showing up in Isaac Newton. I don't have time to figure out what the problem is. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:06, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

@Clarityfiend: Fixed. The article ran into the long-standing software bug phab:T22707. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:28, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:02, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Creating a new page[edit]

How do i create a page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 7Bagyaraj (talkcontribs) 08:43, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

@7Bagyaraj: Successfully creating a new article(not just "page") is the most difficult task on Wikipedia. It takes much time and practice. New users who dive right in to creating articles often end up disappointed and with hurt feelings as work they put hours into is mercilessly edited, criticized, and removed by others. I don't want to see that happen to you. New users are much more successful at creating articles after they have some experience editing existing articles in areas that interest them, to get a feel for how Wikipedia works and what is being looked for. I would strongly recommend that you do this. You should also use the new user tutorial.
However, if you still want to attempt to create an article immediately, you should read Your First Article and use Articles for Creation. 331dot (talk) 12:26, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

archived pages?[edit]

Is there a way to find the wikipedia page displayed yesterday (6/25/19)? I am looking for the article on a plant that was shown but cannot recall the name of the plant and a key word search has not worked, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C3:4300:2440:E580:A2AE:BC41:1851 (talk) 12:22, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Please be more specific about what you are referencing, such as "displayed yesterday"; displayed where? 331dot (talk) 12:27, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
Have you tried your browser history? Eagleash (talk) 12:30, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
If you refer to Main Page then see Wikipedia:Main Page history. Wikipedia:Main Page history/2019 June 25 has a link to Erythrina berteroana. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:32, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

==To Orville 1974 (Please! don't delete the request before looking it)[edit]

Sir, you told on the help desk that if you get the information that from where Dr. Shamsheer Vayalil belong then you will certainly add this information in the article (in early life paragraph). Then you must know that he belongs from "KOZHIKODE" district in KERALA. You visit to References paragraph present in Dr. Shamsheer's article and click on Reference number 17. Then a page will get open from where you can find this information. Hope, now this information may be added. Thanks. ( (talk) 16:57, 26 June 2019 (UTC))

 Done Orville1974talk 17:08, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
sorry my fault. Moved it to an achieve OkayKenG (talk) 17:12, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
Okay so please click on this link to request changes. If you made any requests that have not been does, please rerequet them using the link. OkayKenG (talk) 17:24, 26 June 2019 (UTC)


Original Barnstar.png The Original Barnstar
This belongs to all those editors who worked very hard to improve Dr. Shamsheer's article. It's very hard to thank every editor individually. So, I have used this platform to thank all of them. I also want to tell everyone that the article is in great shape now & needs no any edit anymore. 🌟✨✨🌟🌺🌻🌹🌷

Thanks to everyone.

( (talk)) 

Note: I request to administrators that don't remove this. Let others also to see this because this belongs to everyone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:48, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, and Face-smile.svg Thank you. I've copied this to the talk page of the relevant article Talk:Shamsheer Vayalil. The editors involved there will appreciate it the most. Orville1974talk 22:21, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Tripedaliidae. Tripedalia binata Moore 1988 (Missing Reference) MOORE, S. J. 1988: A new species of cubomedusan, from Northern Australia. The Beagle, 5 (1): 1-4.[edit]

[1]MOORE, S. J.- 1988: A new species of cubomedusan, from Northern Australia. The Beagle, 5 (1): 1-4.


  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference undefined was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
Hi! The source you've added here doesn't mention the Tripedaliidae at all. Did you intend to link a different source or identify another article? If you're referring to Tripedalia binata, the best place to include the source (once you locate it), if you're not sure how, is to mention it on that article's talk page: Talk:Tripedaliidae. You can also get there by clicking on the talk tab at the top of the article. Orville1974talk 22:30, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

June 27[edit]