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January 21[edit]

how to stop accidentally editing wiki articles[edit]

i sometimes get messages about editing an article which is something ive never intentionally done, how do i stop this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:44, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

You are not logged in, so we know you by your IP address instead of a user name. The IP address is shared, so different people use it. You are seeing messages intended for those earlier people. You may simply ignore the messages. I better solution is to create a login and use it. It's actually more anonymous than the IP address, and you won't be bothered with this stuff again. -Arch dude (talk) 06:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: I suppose 'I better solution' should rather read like 'A better solution'. --CiaPan (talk) 10:25, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Question regarding the copyright infringement[edit]

Hi. I got this message when created a wiki page. I have deleted the section of the page where had the infringement issue. Could you tell me what my next step is to complete the page? Thank you very much for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sekigu524 (talkcontribs) 06:41, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@Sekigu524: Which page? your have not created any page with this account, so we do not know how to help you. -Arch dude (talk) 06:49, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: sorry.I created the page.(I consulted Sekigu524. And Sekigu524 asked a question.) -Castor KakuWakako (talk) 07:21, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Castor KakuWakako:If you are sure you have removed all copyrighted material, then immediately create the article's talk page and contest the speedy deletion, stating that you have removed all such material. Do that now, then we can work on all the other problems. -Arch dude (talk) 07:44, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

What to do if someone keep reverting my contribution[edit]

Hello I am updating the information under "Schedule" on Radio Cardiff page. But CAPTAIN RAJU keeps reverting this and accuses me of "Vandalism" and not "constructive". It is ridiculous as I am working with te station and updating the most important information of radio schedule. How can it be not constructive?. What shall I do if I do need to change the information on the page? Zsl11913 (talk) 12:14, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@Zsl11913: Hello, if your changes are reverted you should open a discussion at the article talk page to reach consensus with the other editor involved. However, before undertaking any further edits you must read both WP:COI and WP:PAID (the latter page is mandatory under the terms of use) and make the necessary declarations. You should also, not edit the page directly but make requests at the talk page following the instructions found at Template:Request edit. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 12:25, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Many thanks. Nevermind, I am working as a volunteer so I am not paid. And all I am doing is simply updating radio station schedule, which has nothing to do either conflict of interest or vandalism. And keeping information up-to-date is one of the most constructive thing people could do on Wikipedia. This page has been updated regularly by me as we change the schedule quite often and it makes no sense that updating a schedule needs these complicated procedure. Zsl11913 (talk) 12:33, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
It appears the main reason why you were reverted because some of the text was out of place. To the people who combat vandalism (who try to use quick heuristics to determine if an edit was constructive or not) it may have appeared like a test edit. The messages you were sent are templated messages and they sometimes don't describe the situation very well. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:35, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Many thanks for your explanation. It would be much easier if this was explained by the person who reverted my work instead of calling me vandalism. I spent hours editing now it all gone. Really frustrated. But again, thank you for your explanation. Zsl11913 (talk) 12:42, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Zsl11913: You have declared a connection with the subject. You therefore need to read both pages and make the necessary declarations. Volunteers are considered to be 'employees' as far as Wikipedia is concerned. Wikipedia is happy to receive your input as long as the conditions are complied with. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 12:52, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Eagleash: Thank you. Job done. May I revert my contributions now? Or someone could help me with this? Zsl11913 (talk) 12:57, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

The schedule should not be in the article at all. As per WP:NOTRADIOGUIDE - X201 (talk) 13:16, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@X201: Sure, many thanks for this. Zsl11913 (talk) 13:23, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict)@Zsl11913: Not sure what you mean, it looks to me as if your edits have been undone by other editor(s). I don't think there's a need to rv anything at the article page. BTW a 'ping' will not work unless you add it together with the message and your signature all in one fell swoop – one edit. Eagleash (talk) 13:25, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Eagleash: Thanks for this, all sorted now. Zsl11913 (talk) 13:27, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Citing references[edit]

I have just added to an article on the Medical Practitioners' Union. This is my first attempt at editing Wikipedia. I was happy to add references but I couldn't identify how to insert a reference. When I saved the article it said "Cite error - there are reference tags without content" but I couldn't see these reference tags. What do I do? I want to add the proper references to the article and remove the cite error — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephen John Watkins (talkcontribs) 12:29, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@Stephen John Watkins: Hello, with this edit you added ref tags just before the references section. These do not render on the displayed page. You place the reference material between ref tags at the point in the text which the source supports and this will then display in the references section due to the presence of the 'reflist' template. For more information please see WP:REFB. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 12:41, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Editing the July 12 Wikipedia page[edit]

I would like to add to the Notable Deaths section of the July 12 page: Elaine Morgan, Welsh writer, aquatic ape hypothesis (b. 1920) — Preceding unsigned comment added by May Monique Ocean (talkcontribs) 12:56, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@May Monique Ocean:  Done I have added Morgan to the list. Yhank you for pointing out the omission. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you.Eagleash (talk) 13:45, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Inaccurate information[edit]

Whilst trying to resolve inaccurate information on a page, it became apparent that when what I was arguing was not in the biased opinion of editors, the talk thread could not be updated with supporting material. Deeply concerned with the biased 'editorial volunteers' at Wikipedia who (it would seem) would rather control a narrative than correct information. Upon scrutinizing one editors profile, it became apparent that conflicts had arisen in the past with other users. If this isn't resolved, it puts into question every article on Wikipedia for transparency and integrity.

With the current climate of rampant fake news propaganda and narratives, it's disturbing that it's seems Wikipedia is now too a victim. Although I feel nothing will come of this even though I will share it with those of whom I trust, I await a resolution with anticipation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackest knight99 (talkcontribs) 13:29, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Blackest knight99 It would seem that you created this account for the expressed purpose of making the above statement; it is difficult to comment on your situation without knowing more about it. I can say that Wikipedia is interested in Verifiability, not truth, as truth is in the eye of the beholder. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about article subjects. If there is incorrect information in an article, we want to know what it is along with any sources to support the claim being made. If it is the reliable sources that are incorrect, then you will need to speak to them. 331dot (talk) 13:32, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Since I cannot seem to reply to anyone I'm putting this up here:

Due to the nature of the material in question, I was reserved in my initial post. I wrote help desk in regards to the Tommy Robinson page and the false claim that he is far right. When editors asked for evidence it seemed I could no longer edit the post so I made a new account (this one) in the hope of rectifying the issue. I direct your attention to the recent Sappho award in Danish Parliament speech by Tommy Robinson explaining the nature of the media's attack on him and why he was falsely labeled far right. As I cannot provide a link to the YouTube video, I cannot provide a direct means, but a search on YouTube will find the video in question.

Here is the rationalwiki page on far right politics that determines what it is to be far right

By this very definition, it is demonstrably false to label Tommy Robinson as far right, therefore, the Tommy Robinson page is inaccurate and misleading as I originally stated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackest knight99 (talkcontribs) 14:24, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

If you are using a phone, you may find it easier to use the Desktop version there instead of the mobile version. This should allow you to edit this section directly instead of creating new sections every time. 331dot (talk) 14:28, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Blackest knight99 If you have independent sources covering his speech describing himself, that might be a possibility for adding to the article(though that would not mean what other sources say could be removed). Otherwise, Wikipedia isn't interested in how someone describes themselves, they are free to do that in other ways(as this man has done). As I said, Wikipedia summarizes what independent source say. If Mr. Robinson doesn't like how sources describe him, he needs to address that with them, or change his views and actions so that they describe him differently. 331dot (talk) 14:30, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
I would add that a user-editable wiki is not considered a reliable source here, just as Wikipedia itself is not. 331dot (talk) 14:34, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
I would also add that Wikipedia does not make a claim that the information is true; Wikipedia just presents the information and sources so people can decide for themselves. 331dot (talk) 14:38, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Blackest knight99: Tommy Robinson (activist) is described as "far right" in two reliable sources (see WP:RS) referenced in the article. Wikipedia does not define "far right" and we do not accept a definition for the term from some random source on the Internet. We just report the way our reliable sources use the term. If you find a reliable source that states that Robinson is not "far right", you may add that to the article, but you may not remove the current referenced usage of the term. Further discussion should take place on the article's talk page, not here. Please try to discuss the issue with other specific editors there to reach a consensus. -Arch dude (talk) 20:33, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Blackest knight99: You may wish to read Far-right politics to see how the term is used based on a consensus of reliable sources. If you disagree with this description of the term, you may wish to find other reliable sources and open a discussion on that article's talk page to introduce the alternative descriptions. -Arch dude (talk) 20:38, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Uploading Photo of Robert Ray[edit]

I'm trying to upload a photo of attorney Robert W. Ray, who is the defense attorney in the Trump impeachment. I found an image published by Fox News, and I'm not sure whether this is public domain or covered by fair use. Do you know what it is? Thanks! One Blue Hat❯❯❯ (talk) 16:58, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hey One Blue Hat. Any photo taken from a commercial website like Fox News is almost certainly copyrighted and cannot be used on Wikipedia, as we do not allow non-free fair use images of living people. GMGtalk 17:04, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
GreenMeansGo Understood. — Preceding unsigned comment added by One Blue Hat (talkcontribs) 18:04, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Account/Page removal[edit]

I would like my account to be deleted, I've read the FAQ but since I haven't made any edits I think it makes sense for it to be possible. If not, change my username and make my account hidden. I do not want this account anymore Linkz (talk) 18:13, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, TheLinkzGamer. For both technical and legal reason., Wikipedia accounts may not be deleted. You can request a Courtesy vanishing. If granted, this will change your user name to a long random string, which has no connection with your former username. But previous signatures, if any, will not be changed. See the linked page for details. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 18:48, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Watchlist help[edit]

Hello, I primarily use Wikipedia on mobile. For whatever reason, whenever I check my watchlist, the link to rollback often gets triggered accidentally. How do I remove rollback functionality from my watchlist only? Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 22:06, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets has a useful option: "Require confirmation before performing rollback on mobile devices". --David Biddulph (talk) 22:26, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
You don't make mobile edits so I guess you mean the desktop version of the site on a mobile device. You can add this to your CSS:
 .mw-special-Watchlist .mw-rollback-link {display:none;}
PrimeHunter (talk) 22:27, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Yes, thanks. I realized the ambiguity of my question just now. I’ll give it a try! Viriditas (talk) 23:58, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Works perfectly, thanks again! Viriditas (talk) 00:00, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Michael Terraga[edit]

This new page should be deleted. It does not indicate why Terraga is notable. The sources cited are not reliable sources. The story about Heath is a bonkers conspiracy theory that has been discredited. -- Alarics (talk) 22:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

There isn't an article entitled Michael Terraga, and there apparently never has been. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:50, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Sorry I spelt it wrong. It's Michael Tarraga. -- Alarics (talk) 23:03, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
There are 3 processes for requesting deletion, see WP:Deletion process. --David Biddulph (talk) 23:15, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Alarics and David Biddulph: Forwarded to BLP/N, the BLP deletion processes are tricky, they have BLPPROD in addition to PROD, immediately instead of WP:NORUSH, and the TOU for an "office action". – (talk) 00:55, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
@David Biddulph: I did attempt to read WP:Deletion process but found it impossible to understand, so I don't know what to do next. -- Alarics (talk) 21:56, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Search across article and talk?[edit]

Is there any way to look for articles containing the infobox fraternity template where the talk page doesn't not include that it is part of Wikiproject Fraternities and Sororities?Naraht (talk) 22:49, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

I don't know of any user friendly way to do so. The only way I've found is to use the API to assemble a list of all pages transcluding either template, and then find the difference. Here is your list:
Extended content

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Thjarkur (talk) 00:41, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanx. I think I got them all. (dropped your list into a sandbox, added Talk: to all of them and saved and off to AutoWikiBrowser. :) ) If you could quickly run again to make sure I got them all?Naraht (talk) 21:13, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Missing: Alpha Gamma UpsilonAlpha Tau AlphaGamma Sigma DeltaComputer Science Undergraduate AssociationAlpha Tau DeltaPhi ChiAlpha Beta PsiThjarkur (talk) 22:29, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Name disambiguation question[edit]

The article Equestrian at the 1956 Summer Olympics contains this text:

Kari Tolvanen | Lariina | Finland | -107.60

written in wiki source code as:

{{sortname|Kari|Tolvanen}} ||align=left| Lariina ||align=left| {{flagIOC|FIN|1956 Summer}} || -107.60

This can't possibly be Kari Tolvanen, as he was only born five years after the event took place. This should be disambiguated as Kari Tolvanen (equestrian) or something, but how? No such link Kari Tolvanen appears in the article. JIP | Talk 22:59, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Kari Tolvanen is not mentioned in Equestrian at the 1956 Summer Olympics but he is in Equestrian at the 1956 Summer Olympics – Individual eventing and Equestrian at the 1956 Summer Olympics – Team eventing. Template:Sortname shows the code to use: {{sortname|Kari|Tolvanen|dab=equestrian}} or {{sortname|Kari|Tolvanen|Kari Tolvanen (equestrian)}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:37, 21 January 2020 (UTC)


I am married to Ray Wylie Hubbard and was checking his Wiki page to see if it was up to date. There were several errors that someone else had edited in. It seems someone who goes by @pumpkinbutter erased everything I added and put back his misinformation. I don't know the ins and outs of how to put stuff on Wiki so I asked a friend to post it for me with updates. If there is anything I wasn't supposed to do please let me know but I don't understand why all of my edits have been undone and misinformation from someone who does not have facts straight can override it.I spent a lot of time working on the sources and making sure everything was correct. Thanks! judy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wylieworld (talkcontribs) 23:24, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Judy! The best place to start would be with the guide located here -> WP:PSCOI. It will help explain the process you (and your friend) should use when you see incorrect information on a page where a conflict of interest might exist (in this case, the subject of the article being your husband). Orvilletalk 23:58, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Wylieworld: Judy, it looks like there has been some concern going back quite a while regarding your edits to the page Talk:Ray_Wylie_Hubbard. Please don't make any more edits without following the guidance in the message just above. Thank you! Orvilletalk 00:03, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
@Wylieworld: I'll also note that you need to be the only one operating your account/having access to it. 331dot (talk) 00:07, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
@Wylieworld: To get the attention of a user, as people are doing here, you have to use the "Ping" template, by typing {{Ping|pumpkinbutter}}. Writing the @ symbol by hand doesn't do anything. JIP | Talk 14:22, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

January 22[edit]


I made edits in Gadolonium causing fibromyalgia on fibromyalgia page. As well as in Gadolonium page. Both gone. How do I get the truth to the public when people delete it so quickly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gadisbad (talkcontribs) 01:15, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

@Gadisbad:Wikipedia depends on verifiability, not Truth. See WP:TRUTH. We need references to reliable sources, and a paper on a hypothesis cannot be cited as if it claims that the hypothesis has been proven. The requirement for reliability for a medical claim is higher than that for other claims: see WP:MEDRS. If your goal is to "get the truth to the public", then you must choose a different web site. -Arch dude (talk) 02:08, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
WP:TRUTH is also a nice example how enwiki ticks, it is an essay (no policy, no guideline, no supplement) started in April 2008. In August 2008 another editor started another essay (no policy, no guideline, no supplement) WP:TRUE. There's also WP:THETRUTH, and my personal "old school" (~ boomer) favourite always was WP:42, the shortest essay in this zoo. – (talk) 03:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I wouldn't place much credence in a post that doesn't know how to spell Gadolinium. I also would be skeptical of a theory that one particular rare earth metal has a toxicity, since all of the rare earth metals have almost the same chemistry, but that simply means that evidence needs to be provided, which is true of all scientific claims and especially medical claims. We don't even currently have a redirect for gadolonium, but I will go ahead and set one up. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:02, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Obligatory on topic ACK and a random observation: Some years ago the slightly odd colon-indentation style for signed comments on talk + project pages used n+1 colons for all replies to a comment with n colons. In 2019 and now I often see one more colon, even if the reply is mainly to the comment of the OP, not to the most recent reply. Is that a personal choice, or a new feature?
Background, I was a FLOW-supporter and created Talk pages project recently. Try to do stuff as IP is entertaining, but admittedly my theory that it helps with there is no ex in ex-wikiholic is shaky. – (talk) 22:26, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Annoying there are many editors who either have not read WP:Indentation or ignore it. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:45, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

How do I cite a news story?[edit]

I made an edit on the weedmaps page and was called out for not providing a source. For what its worth, I don't know how to cite my source.

Here is the url for my citation: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeager435 (talkcontribs) 01:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

@Yeager435: Put the link in between ref tags. For example: <ref>(insert link here)</ref>. CatcherStorm talk 01:26, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
@Yeager435: A "raw" URL is a lot better than nothing and will suffice to keep editors from hassling you for not having a reference, but it's better for the rest of us if you have time to learn how to use the {{cite web}} template inside of the ref tags instead of just the raw URL. You will find some worked examples in the article. You can also read WP:REFBEGIN. Thanks for your contribution to Weedmaps even if you don't have the time or interest in the more complicated stuff. -Arch dude (talk) 02:21, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

How to publish a Wikipedia Page from Draft?[edit]


I have a wikipedia page in draft but there is no option to publish that page. How to do this. Please guide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margerperez (talkcontribs) 05:00, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Margerperez:. To start the review process, just add this code to the top of your draft: {{subst:submit}} . After doing so, you'll see a yellow box telling you that your draft is now awaiting review. Good luck! Orvilletalk 05:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm trying to semi clone Talk:Donald_Trump#Current_consensus at Talk:Race_and_intelligence#Current_consensus[edit]

But it ain't working right. Please help. Something to do with templates I think. Peregrine Fisher (talk) 05:04, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

@Peregrine Fisher: I've made an edit to Talk:Race and intelligence/Current consensus. Is that what you had in mind? -- John of Reading (talk) 07:22, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Malicious redirect of the page -[edit]

Hi.. the following user has purposely deleted contents of the page - and redirected to the page - - which is not correct.

Rosguill is the user name who has done that yesterday. In the past some other users also have been doing the same.

How to stop users doing such mischief? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rameshvinayak (talkcontribs) 11:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

@Rameshvinayak: The page was re-directed to the page about his political party as they both contain essentially the same information. The article about Gupta does not contain much, if anything, additional to the Hindu Sena page. As it stands, Gupta himself does not warrant a standalone article as there is not enough in mainstream relaible sources to support it. Eagleash (talk) 11:56, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
User:Rameshvinayak - Alleging that another user has maliciously redirected a page, or that their conduct is mischief, could be construed as a personal attack. I suggest that you strike out the personal attack. Users who engage in personal attacks are often blocked. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:16, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Subpage count[edit]

As an example, Special:PrefixIndex outputs ten subpages for Template:POTD/2020-01-24. Is there a way to count the number of subpages for a given page, e.g. something that outputs "10" for the above example? Thanks. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 12:04, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Click "Page information" under "Tools" in the left pane of Template:POTD/2020-01-24 to get various information including "Number of subpages of this page 9 (0 redirects; 9 non-redirects)". The 10th at Special:PrefixIndex/Template:POTD/2020-01-24 is the page itself which isn't considered a subpage. Special:PrefixIndex/Template:POTD/2020-01-24/ omits it. The search prefix:"Template:POTD/2020-01-24/" also works by displaying the number of results. There is no wikitext which can output the count in a wiki page. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:51, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Someone is Vandalizing a Page / Need Help Deleting Page[edit]

Michael Burns (executive) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Trying to delete page "Michael Burns Executive" b/c someone is using vandalism tactics to vandalize the page. Someone keeps changing his divorce status (Pell James) to read "Divorce" for monthes, but Michael is not divorced. Micheal just wants the page deleted.

History: Page was protected after vandalised was fixed but a user got it unprotected and continued to vandalize the page for months now.

Tried to delete but the user removes the tag. Michael Burns did not create the page so he is unable to delete.

Can I chat with an admin about this or help with deleting the page?

Thanks, James Richardson (Dir. of Content Protection at LIONSGATE) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesBP425 (talkcontribs) 16:41, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

JamesBP425, I am afraid that we do not care what Burns thinks about his page. We will fight unsourced info, but, all accurate information and content will remain, regardless of whether Burns wants it deleted. moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 16:43, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
If, eventually, it turns out the divorce actually happened and sufficient reliable sources are avaliable for it, it will be re-added. I assume the unsourced info on the divorce is why he wants it deleted. moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 16:44, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Checked a bit more. Seems that the divorce is pending. moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 16:49, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
@JamesBP425: Please declare your status as a paid editor with respect to the Michael Burns (executive) article and the Lionsgate article. See WP:PAID. Please refrain from editing those articles directly. This is required by the terms of use that you agree to comply with every time you edit Wikipedia. Feel free to make suggestions for changes on the affected article's talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 17:05, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
@JamesBP425: About that deletion: If the subject is notable, we will not delete the article. The subject himself has no say in this decision: the information in the article is supposed to be referenced to publicly-available reliable sources. See Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. If you think something in the article should be deleted because it is not relevant, then make your case based on our "biography of living persons" policy: see WP:BLP. -Arch dude (talk) 18:23, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Have requested page protection. This unsourced divorce information has been added in 5 times since September and apparently nobody is keeping an eye on the article. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:28, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

JamesBP425 - Thank you for this information. I was told otherwise. I appreciate the quick response! — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesBP425 (talkcontribs) 18:39, 22 January 2020 (UTC)


Joe Rollins (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)


THANKS, GUY ROLLINS (NEWBIE) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rolguy (talkcontribs) 18:32, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

It's best to start over again, copyright violations are usually not restored. If he is a family member of yours, you may want to submit it for review using the articles for creation process (WP:COI). – Thjarkur (talk) 18:38, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Please do not type in all-capital letters. In written communication, the use of all-caps is the equivalent of screaming, and is considered rude. To answer your question, the article Joe Rollins was deleted because it was likely a copyright violation (see WP:COPYVIO for Wikipedia's policy on this). There would be nothing wrong with you re-creating the article yourself, so long as you don't copy the text from another source, you do cite the sources you used to write the text, and so long as you yourself do not have a conflict of interest with the subject such that you would be inclined to run afoul of Wikipedia's policies on maintaining a neutral point of view. If this would be the first time you had created an article at Wikipedia, you can find some good guidance at Help:Your first article. --Jayron32 18:41, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Azim Azimzades[edit]

make an article about azim azimzades works of art. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:13, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia has an article about Azim Azimzade. If there is something missing, you're invited to add it yourself. --Jayron32 19:47, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Broken formatting on Daniel Lundh[edit]


The formatting on seems to be broken. I tried to fix it but failed and I think it could do with someone who knows what they're doing. Red Fiona (talk) 22:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

@Redfiona99: The table markers |- and |} must be keyed exactly like that, without a space between the two characters. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:34, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Archiving at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Climate change not working[edit]

There seems to be no archiving going on in this active WikiProject. I know the bot has had some hiccups a while back, but maybe the settings are wrong instead? Any help would be appreciated! Femke Nijsse (talk) 22:39, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

@Femkemilene: The settings were wrong until [1]. Archiving usually runs once a day. Come back if it hasn't archived in two days. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:44, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
It's archiving now. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:56, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Why can't I create Dimitrios Bitzenis artist page?[edit]

What am I doing wrong and you are deleting it? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bitzenis (talkcontribs) 22:51, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

@Bitzenis: Based on the messages on your talk page at User_talk:Bitzenis, it is because you are trying to advertise your business. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a venue for promotion. RudolfRed (talk) 22:59, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
@Bitzenis: I responded at further length on your talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 04:07, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

January 23[edit]

2020 Big 12 Football season article[edit]

Can you fix the error on the 2020 Big 12 Conference Football schedule please. (talk) 03:08, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

@ Is there any reason you can't do it yourself, since you are the only one who knows what error that is? That would be faster, and another option would be to ask on that article's talk page. It doesn't scale if requests for improvements for all 6M articles wind up here. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 04:23, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Hire someone to update Music Artist Wikipedia page?[edit]


Our Artist, Duane Harden, WikiPedia page is needs to be updated:

Who do we contact to hire someone to update his WikiPedia page to connect the WikiMii information of (1) my discography and (2) chart position success ?


Soltrenz Records

Duane Harden -

You Don’t Know Me - What You Need - Love Generation - Party All Day (Sleep All Night) - Stop Playing With My Mind -

And many many more music releases — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soltrenzrecords (talkcontribs) 03:59, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

@Soltrenzrecords: Wikipedia is edited primarily by volunteers, and quite of few of us are at least a little bit hostile towards paid editors. We do not recommend any particular paid editors, but you can probably find one. Please be aware that no such person has any special privileges and that any random volunteer editor can come along and change the article later. You are free of suggest changes to the article adding a new section on the article's talks page, and a volunteer is likely to come along and make the changes IF they meet our criteria (e.g., they are encyclopedic, not promotional). But first, you need to change your user name, which violates our "no corporate or group names" policy: see WP:USERNAME. After you have an acceptable name, you must then read and adhere to our policy on paid editing, since you are paid directly or indirectly by the subject. See WP:PAID. (Anyone you paid to edit would also need to do this.) All of this is actually fairly painless, so don't waste your money on an outsider. -Arch dude (talk) 04:19, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Correcting a reference[edit]

There are several references in an article with incorrect links. All of the citations in the reference section have little padlocks next to them, which I presume means they can't be edited. When I try to edit the entire section, none of the references appear, as if I am not authorized to edit them. I can suggest the proper URL, but can't find instructions to help me. What do I do? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biblionaif (talkcontribs) 05:11, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

@Biblionaif: The padlocks mean the citation link requires a subscription or registration to read - it's paywalled. This is your first edit since April, so I'm not sure which article you're referring to. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 06:57, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
@Biblionaif: In many articles, the references are defined where they are used, up in the article text, and have to be edited there. The "References" section then contains only a formatting code that tells the software where to display the references. Help:Referencing for beginners may help you. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:32, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia mobile app - tracking[edit]


Can someone shed some light on what is going on here? Does Wikipedia app track its users or is this a misunderstanding? Thank you Zolidor (talk) 06:33, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

According to this, they apply the term "tracking antifeature" to apps that just happen to update without bothering you about it. Looking over the permissions, it's probably the "find accounts on the device" permission, so you don't have to log in every single time you open the app. Ian.thomson (talk) 06:49, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Are you sure about this? To me it seems that page is about phoning home. Does Wikipedia's app transmit info about my accounts other than the login credentials? I'm not normally an editor, just interested about this because I'm wondering if I'd read Wikipedia easier with an app on my phone, but so far I've been wary of downloading it because it's marked as having tracking. Zolidor (talk) 07:35, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Relaying a response from an F-Droid Forum contributor who knows more about mobile apps than me: [2]
(our wiki is no longer updated) the correct antifeatures page is this:
"apps that just happen to update without bothering you about it"
Do note that given the Android security features an app can’t just update itself from outside the anyway (except apps that build reproducibly but those are rare now)
Zolidor (talk) 00:39, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Please help to translate article to Arabic[edit]

Tried to create the Arabic translation of the article "United Development Company", and was faced with this error (translated from Arabic) at attempt to create draft:

The title "United Development Company" has been banned from creation. It matches the following entry in the blacklist: .*شركة.* <autoconfirmed>"

(please note "شركة" means "company" in Arabic, and it is in the name of the article published).

Tried Help desk in Arabic Wikipedia but haven't gotten any reply or help for past 9 days.

Appreciate any guidance or help in creating this translation. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Articulusscriptor (talkcontribs) 08:32, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

@Articulusscriptor: You appear to be attempting to add an article to the Arabic encyclopedia. Each Wikipedia language is a separate project, with separate policies, separate administration, and separate blacklists. You will need to ask your question on the help desk of the Arabic Wikipedia. -Arch dude (talk) 16:41, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: They already did.
At any rate, maybe User:علاء has time to look into the matter. GMGtalk 16:50, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
@GreenMeansGo and Arch dude: Yeah, but the best move is to find a way on the Arabic WP to a attract the appropriate attention. I hope User:علاء knows how. Maybe they have their equivalent of the AFC help desk? -Arch dude (talk) 17:00, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello @GreenMeansGo and Arch dude:. Thanks for pings. I replied on the help desk of the Arabic Wikipedia. The issue here, that word شركة (=company) exist on arwiki titleblacklist and newusers should be autoconfirmed (Registered since 4 days with 50 edits on article namespace) to create such title, as there's a lot of tries to make articles about companies without any notability (based on Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Above user, made 14 edits (11 enwiki + 3 arwiki), and all of his edits related to above company, so probably there's COI! --Alaa :)..! 12:27, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Questions about diff links[edit]

Hi helpdesk. I've been checking Help:Diff to find a way to load the changed rows in an article without loading the entire article (in some cases the article is huge and only a single line has changed so the page takes a long time to load.) I appreciate that the server probably has to compute the diffs anyway, which may be time consuming, but it seems like sending the entire article in a response is an unnecessary burden on the network. The Diff article only provides shorthand formats for the request URL. Does anyone know if there's a way to request just the diff? Thanks, (talk) 09:39, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Help:Diff#External links says:
  • To show only a diff and not the page content, add &diffonly=1 to any of the above:
Registered users can choose it as standard at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. They can also use User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/DiffOnly.js. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:55, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Change page name[edit]


Please can someone change the page name of the below? The new team name is Canyon dhb p/b Soreen. I work for the team but do not have administrator rights to change this.

Many thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by CNGallagher (talkcontribs) 10:37, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

CNGallagher You may request a page move at Requested Moves. Before you do, however, you must review and formally comply with the conflict of interest and paid editing policies(the latter is a Terms of Use requirement and mandatory) as you have some formal declarations to make. 331dot (talk) 10:47, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
And when you have done that, CNGallagher, it would be a good idea to find some reliably published sources wholly independent of the team and its sponsors (it has none at present). Without a couple of those, the article does not establish that the team is notable, and is likely to be deleted. If it survives, it also needs to purged of all the promotional language and turned into an encyclopaedia article; though given your COI, you should not edit it directly, but should request edits on its talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 19:31, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Can't move draft to mainspace[edit]

Hello! I've written am article about Portia Geach - here is the draft . But when I tried to move it to the mainspace it says there's already the article with such name although there isn't (I've checked). There's an article on Award named after her, but not about her. Can someone please help me with it? Thank you in advance, --Less Unless (talk) 12:44, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

@Less Unless: It is because there is a redirect page. I'll CSD it for you, so you can move it there. N0nsensical.system(err0r?)(.log) 12:58, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I've deleted the redirect and moved the article. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 13:56, 23 January 2020 (UTC)


I saw it yesterday on and they have the logo. (talk) 14:35, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

That website is not a reliable source; it looks like a fan-created page and is not suitable for finding information or images to add to Wikipedia articles. Please use reliable and/or official NFL sources instead. Thanks. --Jayron32 14:51, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Etiquette for pointing out an error[edit]

The "Notable Productions" section of the page "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" includes the following line:

The play toured in the US and played in San Francisco at the Golden Gate Theater from April 11 to May 12, 2007.

The Golden Gate Theater is in Los Angeles, not San Francisco, and it was vacant in 2007. I don't have better sources for information about a 2007 tour of the play, so I'm not sure how to offer a correction.

What's the proper etiquette here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:59, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

@ It appears the production was in the Golden Gate Theatre, San Francisco so I have corrected the article. TSventon (talk) 15:28, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

What exactly makes that production notable? It's not even sourced. --ColinFine (talk) 19:38, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Changing a Page Title[edit]

I am looking to change the title of this page - The current title is USwitch Due to the branding of the company in questions, the title should be displayed as Uswitch. How do I make this change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IwFergusson (talkcontribs) 15:11, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

@IwFergusson: To change the title, open a move request on the article's talk page. Other users will discuss the move for about a week, and then a user will move the page if there is consensus. Danski454 (talk) 15:44, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I see that all of the sources cited in the article (except possibly one which is not available) call it neither "USwitch" nor "Uswitch" but "uSwitch". Wikipedia policy is to use the name generally used for the subject, rather than the one preferred by the marketing department or anything else. Maproom (talk) 17:13, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

publishing page for public[edit]

please help me publish this page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joe shrivastava (talkcontribs) 15:47, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

I see that you have submitted your draft for AFC review, but I'm sure that it will be declined. I've put a welcome message with some useful links on your user talk page, including to the advice at WP:Your first article. You need to add references, remove misplaced external links, and make an attempt to comply with the Manual of Style. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:55, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Ijust stmbled on this via AFC; I was about to decline it per David's comments. Eagleash (talk) 16:02, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Update Warning sci fi film page[edit]

Hi there,

My favorite director Agata Alexander does not have a wiki page but her new movie does, I'm trying to add a reference page for her and connect it to the film's page, how do I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ifoundmolly (talkcontribs) 18:11, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Ifoundmolly See Your first article for some basics on how to write an article. The most important thing is to make sure you have gathered enough reliable sources about her to provide content for your article, and that you know how to cite them. I recommend creating it first in draft space and asking AFC to review it. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 18:22, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much, I watched the video and created a Sandbox article which was submitted for review, but it said it can take up to 6 months and I'm sure the movie will be out before then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ifoundmolly (talkcontribs) 18:11, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

And I suggest that you let go of the idea that it matters whether or not it's accepted before the movie is out, Ifoundmolly. Please see There is no deadline. --ColinFine (talk) 19:43, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Ifoundmolly I recommend you review referencing for beginners. It's important that you cite the sources in the body text so we know what information comes from which source.  I've also done some formatting work on your draft. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 21:50, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

"Let's get started" program that you see when you first create a Wikipedia account[edit]

When I first created my Wikipedia account, I remember seeing a "Let's get started" program that was an interactive way of finding articles on Wikipedia that needed basic edits (e.g. spelling and grammar fixes). I was rather fond of this program, but I cannot see to find it anywhere. Is there are any way of accessing it again? Here is an image for reference:

"Let's get started" program.png

— Preceding unsigned comment added by TentativeTypist (talkcontribs) 19:22, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

@TentativeTypist: See Wikipedia:GettingStarted#Try it out. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:55, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Six Millionth Article[edit]

We just hit six million articles! If anyone can figure out which article it is for the record, I would be curious. -- Dolotta (talk) 19:26, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

@Dolotta: See Wikipedia talk:Six million articles for discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:58, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Also see the shiny special 6M logo in the upper left of all pages for the default desktop skin.Face-smile.svg84.46.53.160 (talk) 02:23, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

How do I see a deleted article?[edit]

I want to make an article for clickz but it got deleted a decade ago. Can I see the deleted article? So that I can improve it. New3400 (talk) 20:26, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

New3400 I can view it as I am an administrator, and unfortunately since it was deleted as a copyright violation, it cannot be restored. You'll have to start from scratch. 331dot (talk) 20:29, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
New3400, If it was a copyright infringement, then no you can't. Sorry. Adam9007 (talk) 20:30, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Reason being? New3400 (talk) 20:31, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Copyright violations could potentially put Wikipedia in legal jeopardy, this is why the article was deleted and why it cannot be restored to you. Is there a particular reason you wanted to write about this company? 331dot (talk) 20:32, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
The article was in addition quite short - only three lines of text and looked like a spam. Ruslik_Zero 20:34, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

user:331dot yeah I do, it needs one. New3400 (talk) 20:40, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

No one or no entity "needs" an article. Are you associated with the subject? 331dot (talk) 20:41, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

No! I just want to make the article. Ok? New3400 (talk) 20:47, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Then you should use Articles for Creation to create a draft- if this subject meets the definition of a notable business as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources; this does not include press releases, staff interviews, or other routine coverage/announcements. 331dot (talk) 20:51, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Depends, does encyclopedia dramatica and the new York Times count? New3400 (talk) 20:54, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

I don't know what 'encyclopedia dramatica' is(if it is a user-editable encyclopedia, then no, it wouldn't count) but if the NYT chose on its own to give significant coverage to this company, that would be a start. Again, it could not be a press release, staff interview, or routine annoucement. Please see WP:ORG for more information. 331dot (talk) 20:56, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Boi. It's the one that had offended page, got shut down like 5 times, and is a Wikipedia article. What about imbd, or that movie review website? New3400 (talk) 21:00, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

  • FWIW New3400 I had a good search and couldn't find anything that wasn't super promotional or WP:PRIMARY online. IMdB isn't a reliable source, and it would depend on the source and how it's used. Isn't Clickz a marketing agency? Why would that be mentioned significantly in a movie review? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 21:05, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

How is imdb not a good source? New3400 (talk) 21:07, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

IMDB is user-editable. 331dot (talk) 21:08, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
dont it has expert reviews too? New3400 (talk) 21:16, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#IMDb. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:18, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I'm unclear as to what movie reviews have to do with this company, a marketing company. 331dot (talk) 21:23, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment for New3400 - See WP:USERFY for how to get a copy of a deleted article. However, see the "What cannot be userfied" section of WP:USERFY. In this case your request would be declined as the article was deleted as it was copyright infringing material. --Marc Kupper|talk 22:33, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Aligning cell text in a table column[edit]

I want to align cell text to the left in a particular column (the rest of the table's text is centered). Is there a way to do this without copy-pasting style="text-align:left" in every desired cell? Help:Table only mentions this functionality for the whole table, rows, and individual cells, not columns. – Teratix 23:42, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

@Teratix: No, because of the way how columns are working in HTML. IN HTML, columns are created automatically from <td> and <tr> Tags. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 08:41, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
@Teratix and Victor Schmidt mobil: which of the two evils would you choose: spurious use of style="text-align:left" or having a column that isn't perfectly aligned? – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 15:51, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
@Teratix: You could do that in HTML with <colgroup> and <col> elements (see the COLGROUP tag page at w3schools:, but they seem not supported by the wiki software. --CiaPan (talk) 16:26, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
@CiaPan: Maybe some day. Phab: T2986. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 18:02, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
@Finnusertop: Filed Dec 3, 2004. In 2014 the priority got rised to the Lowest level, and in 2015 to Low. Face-sad.svg May be... Some day... --CiaPan (talk) 18:21, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

January 24[edit]

Edits continuously reverted by another user[edit]


I have been editing the page of List of Inbetweeners Episodes, having reworded certain areas to make them sound more ideal. However, once I do, a user named 2a02:c7f:70a8:7900:6a:1ee4:e0a6:76f1, as well as Dl2000, undo them and reword it further. Their edits of the page having notably bad grammar and wording, make many episode summaries unnecessarily long, and at one point even caused issues with how the page is formatted as a whole.

It is frustrating and I wondered if it was possible to have this reviewed and potentially have the most ideal edit selected by Wiki moderators, or whoever could be responsible. It'd help us all out a lot and stop the page from being rapidly edited with dramatic changes.


@JohnRatz: There is no evidence that you (or they) have tried to discuss this issue on the talk page of List of The Inbetweeners episodes. Until you try to resolve this issue and reach consensus there, it's unlikely that an administrator will protect the page. See WP:BRD. -Arch dude (talk) 01:44, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: I have updated the talk page now, what should I do if they continue to ignore it and keep reverting the edits? It is also disrupting the formatting for part of the article. This edit will reveal that, as the series 3 section has lost all its borders and boxes separating descriptions for each episode
@JohnRatz: At the point when, in your editorial judgement, the activity becomes vandalism, proceed to WP:AIV. If it's not vandalism, but "merely" poor editing, try to get a third party involved. See WP:DISPUTE. (as a spearte issue, please sign your posts here and in talk pages by appending four tildes (~~~~) at the end. -Arch dude (talk) 02:04, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Tooltips don't resize according to browser's zone level[edit]

As shown in the attached screenshot -

Wikipedia tooltip issue.png

I hope tooltips resize according to browser's zone level. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Llf (talkcontribs) 04:18, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Want to remove a page[edit]

From the above link its belong to the Wikipedia page. The page is about the one of caste in tamil nadu, india. The caste name is "Isai Velalar" but they registered as "Isai vellalar". There is another community Who belongs the name vellalar. So, please change isai vellalar into isai velalar or remove this page.

Thanking you Harishpranovhk (talk) 10:11, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

The site you link to above is not this one,, but rather (note the extra "m."). I don't know whether that's a legitimate extension of this English-language Wikipedia, or something else over which we here have no control. Hopefully others can enlighten both of us. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 14:01, 24 January 2020 (UTC) is the mobile-phone version of en.wikipedia. It presents exactly the same content, but in a way that is supposedly easier to read on mobile devices. Harishpranovhk, the best place to discuss this is the article's talk page, Talk:Isai_Vellalar.   Maproom (talk) 14:09, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
en.m is the mobile version of wikipedia, you need to go to the talk page at Talk:Isai Vellalar and raise the issue there. MilborneOne (talk) 14:06, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Company offer to create Wikipedia Page for Money (Fraud)[edit]


I am a scientist and recieved a fraud mail from a company which charges an outrageous amount of money to create the Wiki Page for someone. To my understanding, this goes against the Wikipedia Rules, is that correct? Can I report that company somewhere to delete their accounts? The email is below.

"Dear Dr. XXX,

Have you ever wondered about having a Wikipedia page for yourself or your company? We can help you get a Wikipedia page for yourself or your brand.

Why have a Wikipedia page?

Google loves Wikipedia and as such ranks it high in search results. Wikipedia is also the first place people go when they Google your name. By leveraging Wikipedia, you can help control your Online Profile and present yourself to the world. Usually, Wikipedia only accepts pages on celebrities and famous companies, if you are looking to get one for your self, we can help you with that. Having a page for yourself in Wikipedia brings you more credibility and makes you more famous.

We have been editing on Wikipedia for 9+ years and We've created tons of pages for companies, people, brands, products, and of course for academic purposes as well.

We own multiple accounts on Wikipedia with page curation and new page reviewer rights, so we can create and moderate pages with almost zero risks of another mod taking it down.

There are few Wikipedia editors who are willing to create a page for money, and most of them are scared to offer this service directly, so they do it through their trusted sellers who markup the price to $2000 - $2500 per page.

Because you're buying directly from an experienced Wikipedia editor and mod, you'll get your page a lot cheaper, faster and with more reliability.

Let me know if you are interested

Regards, Teresa Edwards. "

Robi313 (talk) 11:11, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Robi313 It isn't against the rules, though it is discouraged. Any user editing for pay must comply with the paid editing policy and declare who is paying them; this is a Terms of Use requirement. If an administrator ("mod") is editing for pay(really any user, but especially an admin) and not declaring it, that would be a serious breach of the policy.
You are correct to be wary, as despite what this person states they can make no guarantees, such as guaranteeing that any article they write will not be deleted. No one using their services should hand over any money before they see the end result. 331dot (talk) 11:15, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
@Robi313: Note also that "we own multiple accounts" is an explicit acknowledgement that these people are violating Wikipedia policy. It's also highly unlikely that they are complying with the requirement in our terms of use that they disclose their paid status as they agree to do each time they hit the "publish" button (see WP:PAID). Therefore, if you sign up wit these folks, you are dealing with an unethical organization, and any customer is complicit in this. -Arch dude (talk) 15:48, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Re hand over any money before they see the end result: Even if they are able to initially create such an article for a non-notable topic, it can subsequently be deleted. The chance of this happening increases over some period of time after the initial creation, especially when it contains mistakes that will cause it to show up in various cleanup lists. I don't see how one could ever feel comfortable paying someone for such a "service". —[AlanM1(talk)]— 16:52, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Username change[edit]

how do i change my username it autofilled when I made it and it's unproffessional but I've an article submitted and don't want to just delete the whole account and start again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thisnightsrevels (talkcontribs) 13:27, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Thisnightsrevels, if you don't want to create a new account, you can request renaming at Wikipedia:Changing username. However, it is generally much quicker to just create a new account. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 13:53, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
And please note, Thisnightsrevels, that there is absolutely no connection between an account name and any article. Whether you ask to have your name changed, or just abandon the account and create a new one, this won't affect the review of Draft:Bears In Trees in any way. What will affect it is finding reliably published independent sources, i.e. places where people completely unconnected with the Band, and unprompted by them, have chosen to write about them and been published somewhere with a reputation for editorial control and fact checking. If you can't find any such sources, you would be well advised not to spend any more time on a non-notable subject. --ColinFine (talk) 20:04, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

football squad template[edit]

Template:Football squad on pitch This template is only for one team. Is there any template where both team lineups and formations can be shown?  :) S A H 13:38, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Arnabsaha2212, might be a better question for WP:FOOTY. I can't see a place in an article for such a thing, as it would take up most of a page. Is there a particular article you would be looking to add this? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 17:43, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Why we not see WWE videos[edit]

Why — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:06, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, this is the help desk for the English Wikipedia. Do you have a question relating to using or editing Wikipedia? Eagleash (talk) 15:10, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk page message[edit]

An editor left this message on my talk page: User_talk:Interstellarity#When_i_edited. Did I respond appropriately to the question and how should I respond next? Interstellarity (talk) 15:42, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

@Interstellarity: Response was fine. I should just ignore it now. (Don't feed the trolls!) Eagleash (talk) 17:01, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
@Eagleash: How do you know that they are a troll? Interstellarity (talk) 17:03, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
@Interstellarity: To leave messages as they did after you reverted them looks pretty much as if they are pushing for a reaction.
@Eagleash: Is it fine to delete the post to deny recognition? (BTW, pings don't work unless you sign your post.) Interstellarity (talk) 17:16, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
@Interstellarity: I know that! We all miss one now and then, especially when busy with other things. Delete it or not it's up to you. Personally, I probably wouldn't but it's your talk page. Eagleash (talk) 17:22, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Ten million articles[edit]

When do you think we will reach ten million articles? Interstellarity (talk) 15:45, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Probably around 2040. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 16:12, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
@ONUnicorn: Do you think Wikipedia will still be around in 2040? Interstellarity (talk) 16:41, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
You can see guesses and make your own at Wikipedia:Ten-million pool. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:16, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
@Interstellarity: Wikipedia should be here unless it is hit by Year_2038_problem RudolfRed (talk) 17:42, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: Thank you for sharing that with me. I'd rather see what others guess it might be. Interstellarity (talk) 17:20, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
@RudolfRed: I hope Wikipedia stays around for many years to come. Maybe another hundred years!! Interstellarity (talk) 17:47, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Nope. See Technological singularity. :-) -Arch dude (talk) 17:53, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Will Wikipedia still be around in 2040? It does not matter. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 17:59, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
See also Wikipedia:Modelling Wikipedia extended growth. -Arch dude (talk) 18:19, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Italics for articles about a publication[edit]

I recently encountered a WP page of article titles beginning with the word "clinical". Nearly all are journal titles. I noticed that not all the journal titles are italicized. In fact, one article is listed twice, both with and without italics. Shouldn't all article titles about journals be italicized? I assume this would be done by moving the unitalicized articles, right? --Quisqualis (talk) 18:33, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

In that list the titles that are italicized are redirects. Ruslik_Zero 19:04, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Article titles are italicized by the template for Infobox Journal. RudolfRed (talk) 19:09, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Special:PrefixIndex/Clinical is a special page. Special pages are generated automatically and cannot be edited (they sometimes display content which can be edited elsewhere but not page lists). Redirects are automatically shown in italics. Other pages are not and no manual styling is possible. It's the same as category pages where redirects are also in italics, e.g. Anakin Skywalker in Category:Jedi. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:31, 24 January 2020 (UTC)


Plasma is wierd and some people say it is not a state of matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Notebo (talkcontribs) 19:15, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Did you have a question about how to edit Wikipedia? You can learn more about plasme at Plasma_(physics). RudolfRed (talk) 19:19, 24 January 2020 (UTC)