Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

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This page provides a forum for editors to suggest items for inclusion in Template:In the news (ITN), a protected Main Page template, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates. This is not the page to report errors in the ITN section on the Main Page—please go to the appropriate section at WP:ERRORS.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

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How to nominate an item[edit]

In order to suggest a candidate:

  • Update an article to be linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated) in UTC.
    • Do not add sections for new dates. These are automatically generated (at midnight UTC) by a bot; creating them manually breaks this process. Remember, we use UTC dates.
  • Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under the "Suggestions" subheading for the date, emboldening the link in the blurb to the updated article. Use a level 4 header (====) when doing so.
    • Preferably use the template {{ITN candidate}} to nominate the article related to the event in the news. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable secondary source. Press releases are not acceptable. The suggested blurb should be written in simple present tense.
    • Adding an explanation why the event should be posted greatly increases the odds of posting.
  • Please consider alerting editors to the nomination by adding the template {{ITN note}} to the corresponding article's talk page.

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There are criteria which guide the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. These are listed at WP:ITN.

Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news will not be placed onto the live template.

Headers[edit]

  • Items that have been posted or pulled from the main page are generally marked with (Posted) or (Pulled) in the item's subject so it is clear they are no longer active.
  • Items can also be marked as (Ready) when the article is both updated and there seems to be a consensus to post. The posting admin, however, should always judge the update and the consensus to post themselves. If you find an entry that you don't feel is ready to post is marked (Ready), you should remove the mark in the header.

Voicing an opinion on an item[edit]

  • Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.
  • Some jargon: RD refers to "recent deaths", a subsection of the news box which lists only the names of the recent notable deceased. Blurb refers to the full sentences that occupy most of the news box. Most eligible deaths will be listed in the recent deaths section of the ITN template. However, some deaths may be given a full listing if there is sufficient consensus to do so.
  • The blurb of a promoted ITN item may be modified to complement the existing items on the main page.

Please do not...[edit]

  • ... add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are usually not helpful. Instead, explain the reasons why you think the item meets or does not meet the ITN inclusion criteria so a consensus can be reached.
  • ... oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive.
  • ... accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). Conflicts of interest are not handled at ITN.
  • ... comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  • ... oppose a WP:ITN/R item here because you disagree with current WP:ITN/R criteria (these can be discussed at the relevant Talk Page)

Suggestions[edit]

August 23[edit]


August 22[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks
Crime and law
Disasters and accidents
International relations
Science and technology

RD: Junior Agogo[edit]

Article: Junior Agogo (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BBC Sport

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

 The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 19:44, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose – Sourcing issues including the stats in infobox. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:01, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Tim Fischer[edit]

Article: Tim Fischer (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former deputy PM of Australia. Fought at Coral and Balmoral in Vietnam. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:53, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

August 21[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

International relations

Law and crime

(Posted) RD: Russ Conway (journalist)[edit]

Article: Russ Conway (journalist) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Star

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Pulitzer prize winner finalist, Start Class article with good sourcing DBigXray 15:54, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Thanks Flibirigit, corrected. It doesnt matter for this discussion though. Cheers.--DBigXray 16:39, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support: Everything in the article looks reasonably well-referenced, although I did see a slight over-reliance on references #1 and #5 (as 45% of the citations in the article link to one of those two refs, out of 14 total sources). I don't think that's a problem in terms of the article's nomination to RD, but I figured it was worth mentioning just in case. TheHardestAspectOfCreatingAnAccountIsAlwaysTheUsername 18:00, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support – non-traditional style (for section heading) but that is not a concern for ITN. Sourcing is good and not reliant on a single source. Note that Houston & Shoalts is also used, so there are actually 3+ dominant reliable sources. That is more than enough. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:26, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Well done, at least well referenced. Good to go IMO--BoothSiftTalks 02:29, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:55, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment still good to go 12 hours later. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 18:40, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment still good to go 15 hours later. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 21:39, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:49, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

RD: Giovanni Buttarelli[edit]

Article: Giovanni Buttarelli (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Politico

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article with good sourcing DBigXray 15:35, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose – Majority unreferenced and external links in the body. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:30, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose The article is mostly unreferenced. --BoothSiftTalks 02:29, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

RD: Babulal Gaur[edit]

Article: Babulal Gaur (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): News18

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article. Sourcing needs work. Elected 10 times, ex CM. Stated "Drinking is a fundamental right", so he was my kind of man. DBigXray 06:07, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose As you say, sourcing needs work. It looks like 2/3 of the article is not footnoted. Also, I hope "His education qualification was B.A. LLB" can be expanded. Rockphed (talk) 12:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose The sourcing definitely needs work at this moment. --BoothSiftTalks 02:28, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

August 20[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology

Sports

(Posted) 2019 Brazil wildfires[edit]

Article: 2019 Brazil wildfires (talk, history)
Blurb: ​Brazil's National Institute for Space Research announces that it has detected more than 74,000 wildfires in the Amazon rainforest since January.
News source(s): BBC, CNN, The Guardian, CBS, Fox News, Reuters, Washington Post. There's plenty more.

Article updated

 Vanamonde (Talk) 02:09, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

  • CommentThe surge marks an 83% increase over the same period of 2018... and is the highest since records began in 2013, according to National Institute for Space Research (Brazilian space agency) via Reuters --- Coffeeandcrumbs 02:18, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Looks good to me--BoothSiftTalks 02:22, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - All referenced and notable Sherenk1 (talk) 05:01, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Whle these have been going since January, only yesterday/today did the media seem to realize this was a significant problem. --Masem (t) 05:30, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:57, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. Per above MSN12102001 (talk) 11:46, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support uh, I guess this is going to impact mankind or entire life on earth. --DBigXray 12:01, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support as an "Ongoing" event. --Bageense(disc.) 15:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
    It should go up as a blurb (it has been ready for 6 hours or more) and if the event is still taking place when the blurb gets to the bottom of the template, it can then (at the discretion of an admin) be transferred into Ongoing rather than just roll off. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 15:07, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted per WP:IAR. Yes, I know it's my own nomination, but I didn't contribute to the article, consensus here is clear, and nobody else seems to be around. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:24, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Giuseppe Conte[edit]

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Article: Giuseppe Conte (talk, history)
Blurb: Giuseppe Conte resigns as Prime Minister of Italy.
News source(s): CNN, BBC, NYT, AP, WX Post

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Another Italian government kicks the bucket. Davey2116 (talk) 16:38, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Comment If I am reading these articles right, this is the announcement of the plan to resign. If that's right, let's wait until he actually does. --Masem (t) 16:49, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Weak Oppose (for now) I agree with Masem: when he actually does announce, this would be better to post (pending the update of his wiki article) --mike_gigs (talk) 17:15, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose As I understand things, this is just a formality preliminary to a general election. The election and any change in government is what we would post. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Removed the ITNR tag - "Changes to the head of government are discussed on their own merits." GreatCaesarsGhost 17:36, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment – He's "tendered his resignation," but has been asked to stay on as a caretaker PM until ... the ice cream melts?
    A separate article on 2019 Italian Political Crisis would be appropriate. (Ongoing?) – Sca (talk) 20:31, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose local politics; userbase bias. Italy is a country of 60 million people and is not a great power. We can't possibly post every time some government resigns in some country somewhere in the world. 5.44.170.9 (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
    Of course we can. Opposing based on population and perception of "great power"ness is absurd. This will, however, be posted once a new head is elected. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 22:34, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
    For example, the UK and France are both permanent security council members, yet they have "small" populations as well. Your reasoning is really absurd. --BoothSiftTalks 06:19, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
    In response to the IP editor, we post about every country, big or small. That said, it's bizarre to consider Italy - the 23rd largest by population out of 193 UN member states - to be too irrelevant for ITN. That would be an example of what you call "userbase bias." Cheers,  Vanilla  Wizard  💙 07:44, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose For now until he actually resigns--BoothSiftTalks 06:19, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
    Well, his resignation is official since August 20... chaos was replaced with crisis, as the NYT eloquently summarized in a headline. Wakari07 (talk) 22:21, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment I have no strong opinions waiting until the resignation actually occurs, but I do recall us posting Theresa May's intentions to resign long before she officially did so & certainly before the leadership election produced a replacement.  Vanilla  Wizard  💙 07:34, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
    That nom was quite contentious for the same reasons. The supporters largely argued that the breadth and depth of coverage was the reason to post, which I find specious. Of course the big anglophone countries are going to get more media coverage - due to the media bias that we seek to ignore in our decision making. GreatCaesarsGhost 11:42, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Question: does anyone know how long it is likely to take to select the successor? I'm hesitant to post the same story twice in rapid succession, but a change of PM in a G8 country is important enough for ITN and it's in the mainstream media now. If the process will take more than a couple of weeks, I support a blurb that says 'announces his intention to resign once a successor has been selected' or similar wording. If a successor will be in place faster than that, I prefer to wait for a combined blurb. Modest Genius talk 11:13, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
    • Without having spend the effort to actually see what is going on, it looks like the last PM to resign mid-term took 3 days between announcement and resignation. The PM before that tendered resignation 13 Feb 2014, had it accepted on 14 Feb, Matteo Renzi formed a government on the 21st, was sworn in on the 22th, and received parliamentary support on the 25th. So we probably have about 2 weeks before the new PM takes office and this leaves the news. Then again, it might result in a new general election which will take months to sort everything out. As a note, the last time an Italian PM resigned without a general election we didn't post the resignation but did post the replacement.Rockphed (talk) 13:03, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Part of the problem is that Italian prime ministers resign with numbing regularity – there have been nearly 60 since WWII.
Sca (talk) 14:49, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
The Italian president said tonight that he gives the parties four days to talk. He said that Tuesday, he'll have new consultations (implying he'll then make a new declaration on either an alternative majority or new elections). But I guess he could also announce that he needs more time...Wakari07 (talk) 22:01, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support We can't wait until the ice caps melt. This is a major, ongoing political crisis in a major country. Wakari07 (talk) 22:38, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Interstellar iron-60 detected in Antarctic snow[edit]

Closed per WP:SNOW. Consensus indicates posting is not likely. (non-admin closure) INeedSupport :V 20:11, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: iron-60 (talk, history)
Blurb: ​Interstellar iron-60 detected in Antarctic snow
News source(s): PRL, CNN

Article updated
 Count Iblis (talk) 12:00, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Interstellar 60Fe on Earth was discovered 20 years ago [1] and has been confirmed several times e.g. [2]. Finding it in Antarctic snow rather than sea floor sediments does not justify an ITN blurb. Modest Genius talk 12:13, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose per MG. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 12:57, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Modest Genius. The discovery on Earth would have been ITN-worthy but confirming its presence in the snow of Antarctica is not.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose No need for this to be include in ITN as per MG--BoothSiftTalks 06:18, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Snow way. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 12:27, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

August 19[edit]

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Science and technology

RD: Harry B. Luthi[edit]

Article: Harry B. Luthi (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): FOX

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class excellent sourcing. Our article may be short but it is beyond the stub criteria and has all the relevant public info on the ex mayor. DBigXray 07:59, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jack Perkins (reporter)[edit]

Article: Jack Perkins (reporter) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NY Times

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article with good sourcing DBigXray 05:38, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Guo Zhenqian[edit]

Article: Guo Zhenqian (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): The Paper

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article is fully sourced. Died on 13 August, but announced on 19th. Zanhe (talk) 07:39, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Comment The article appears to be in good shape, however, 3 of the 4 sources are in Chinese with no obvious translations available. It would be appropriate that a native bilingual check before posting.130.233.3.115 (talk) 07:51, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • He is mentioned in plenty of English sources, but I haven't added them because they're not detailed enough. See this book, for example, which does mention some of his major positions. -Zanhe (talk) 08:17, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

(READY) RD: Mohammed Zahur Khayyam[edit]

Article: Mohammed Zahur Khayyam (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NDTV

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article. Sourcing needs work Now Excellent sourcing. Music composer. DBigXray 18:25, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose Entire paragraphs are unreferenced, including the entire Early Life section as I am aware. You are indeed correct that sourcing needs work. --BoothSiftTalks 00:15, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Nice work-- BoothSift 21:58, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Notable singer of India who left a good legacy. However, I agree that paragraphs need sourcing as person is recently passed away.— Harshil want to talk? 07:33, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose nowhere near ready. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:05, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
    Weak support I'm switching to "ws" because the amount of work done has been excellent, the article needs a serious copyedit and a proseline assassination attempt, but it's far better than it was. Great work. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 18:42, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support One of the best known music composers of India who has received state funerals and numerous national awards during his career Manish2542 (talk) 19:42, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
    No-one is questioning the notability, but the article is junk. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 22:35, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Sourcing issues in the article. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:31, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks folks for your kind review. I understand that all the controversial (or challengable) facts in a BLP need sources. Several editors are working to improve this page. It will be helpful for all of us, if you can add Cn tags in the article or point them here or on the talk page. regards. --DBigXray 06:56, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Fixed The sourcing issues have all been fixed. Took tremendous amount of work and teamwork with User:Fylindfotberserk and User:Vrishchik. The article needs a review again. Courtesy ping User:Boothsift, The Rambling Man, User:Coffeeandcrumbs--DBigXray 17:14, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support – Marked ready. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 23:38, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

RD: Jagannath Mishra[edit]

Article: Jagannath Mishra (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): The Hindu

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article with good sourcing DBigXray 08:36, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose sourcing poor in some areas. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:46, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose Tense problems and general language issues throughout. Many terms ("lahks[lots?] of teachers", "mince his words", "the Center", "draconian", etc.) are not understood outside of India, editorial, or otherwise problematic. Many of the claims, especially in the lede, seem hagiographical, and I am not in a position to know whether they are true because there is no source for them. I assume that the suffix "-ji" to a name indicates then unsuffixed person in the Bihar Press Bill section; this makes for rather confusing reading. The Publications section is lacking entirely. It's a little suspicious that someone with so long a publication history would not have a single reference to even one.130.233.3.115 (talk) 10:14, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 Working 130.233.3.115 thanks for reviewing. I have removed lakhs (FYI lakh =0.1 million). The suffix ji is honorific, and I have removed them. Lack of sources may be attributed to Internet WP:BIAS. I am working to fix your other concerns as well. Some help in copy editing will be appreciated. --DBigXray 10:30, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

August 18[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

International relations

Politics and elections

US missile test[edit]

Article: Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (talk, history)
Blurb: ​The United States conducts its first intermediate-range missile since withdrawing from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty with Russia.
News source(s): Sydney Morning HeraldBBC

Nominator's comments: The US has recently withdrawn from this significant Cold War-era treaty. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:37, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose We just posted the withdrawl. And it was known that the US was getting ready to do this test ASAP after the withdrawl. Not a significant event for ITN. --Masem (t) 21:46, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose just business as usual now. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 09:02, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Masem. Modest Genius talk 10:38, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

RD: Jack Whitaker[edit]

Article: Jack Whitaker (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): ESPN NBC

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article. I am working to improve the sourcing. DBigXray 05:34, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Fixed lot of improvements made since you last reviewed. The Rambling Man, Please review again. --DBigXray 08:45, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Weak support one minor claim left unreferenced at this time, article is improved, well done. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 09:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Fixed thank you. I have referenced that claim now.--DBigXray 09:40, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

RD: Kathleen Blanco[edit]

Article: Kathleen Blanco (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NYT, CBS News

Article needs updating

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American politician, former governor of Louisiana (2004–08) dies at age 76. Article needs lots of work. Davey2116 (talk) 00:06, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose Not in close shape for posting. --Masem (t) 00:21, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Masem. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:44, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment This article may have been edited by a serial copyright violator with a particular interest in Louisiana politics – please check this link. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 22:33, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

2019 Canary Islands wildfires[edit]

Article: 2019 Canary Islands wildfires (talk, history)
Blurb: ​9000 people are evacuated from their homes due to the second wildfire within a week in Gran Canaria, the worst to hit Spain in the last six years.
News source(s): BBC, Euronews, Sky News, El País, AP, Guardian, AFP

Article updated

Nominator's comments: This is a significant event in Spain; it is being covered by all national news outlets as well as significant international ones. In addition, the Canary Islands are a popular summer tourist destination, although tourism has not yet been affected by the events. Vishal dh (talk) 10:03, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose local event that happens commonly, without casualty figure or anyother reason that makes it notable of blurb. --DBigXray 10:10, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment – Some 8,000 evacuated; fires said to be "out of control," spreading. (Two sources added.) – Sca (talk) 13:37, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose Should this cause significant damage then it would make sense to post, but just the existence of wildfires or the evacuation order isn't sufficient for posting. --Masem (t) 16:42, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Wait As of right now it has not yet caused sufficient damage to be internationally notable. However, if the fire threatens a major population centre, or if the fire destroys the UNESCO site on Gran Canaria, then that would change. And I will note that the fire is rather close to both of those. NorthernFalcon (talk) 18:13, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Wait per Masem & NorthernFalcon. Modest Genius talk 18:22, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Wait – No fatalities (yet), but this 24,000-acre (38 sq. mi.) wildfire remains out of control despite 1,000 firefighters and 14 water-dropping helicopters and planes. By any standard – including those of the Western U.S. – that's major. Let's keep an eye on it. – Sca (talk) 14:01, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
PS: Possibly a candidate for Ongoing. – Sca (talk) 14:05, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Didn't take long for the California fires to be posted, as I remember that was before reports of people dying, and I think a good part of an entire island with threats to a WHS is more important internationally and historically than celebrities' houses, as sad as any kind of destruction is.
And I'm pretty sure the Tenerife fire on the 18/19 was actually within the Teide UNESCO WHS already. Kingsif (talk) 17:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
@Kingsif: fwiw the California wildfires in November 2018 (I'm assuming its these, specifically the Woolsey Fire because of the celebrity homes) were posted with 25 confirmed deaths and the near-total destruction of Paradise, CA in the Camp Fire. It was nominated when the destruction became evident, and the deaths were confirmed by the time it gained support for posting. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 09:59, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Which is fair and sad, but a wildfire in one of two island volcano WHS (not caused by the volcano) and another WHS that only got designated this year is also pretty tragic, whether there's people killed or towns destroyed. Kingsif (talk) 14:04, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment – Number of evacuated grown to 9000, affected area grown to 10,000 ha (over 6% of the entire island). Article updated to reflect latest information. Vishal dh (talk) 05:56, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

August 17[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Politics and elections

Science and technology

RD: Cedric Benson[edit]

Article: Cedric Benson (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): CNN

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: C Class article with good sourcing DBigXray 08:59, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Calling for NFL experts to help with sourcing. User:Bagumba please take a look. --DBigXray 06:50, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

RD: Kip Addotta[edit]

Article: Kip Addotta (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): THR

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Comedina frequently on Carson, but probably his legacy is the pun-filled song "Wet Dream". Article is almost there, releases need sources. While died on 13th, family only just announced his death on 17th. Masem (t) 15:46, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) 17 August 2019 Kabul bombing[edit]

Article: 17 August 2019 Kabul bombing (talk, history)
Blurb: 63 non-British/American people were killed in Kabul bombing.
Alternative blurb: ​At least 63 people are killed in a bombing of a wedding in Kabul, Afghanistan.
News source(s): Al Jazeera, AP, BBC, Guardian, AFP

 Abutalub (talk) 10:44, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Support alt blurb. This news is the headline of every news site across the world. --DBigXray 11:22, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - headline news.BabbaQ (talk) 12:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support – in principle due to high mortality. However, two-thirds of the current article consists of comments from assembled notables, while descriptive text is a spare 170 words. Further, the article's statement that "there were no immediate claims of responsibility" is misleading, as RS reports from AP, BBC, the Guardian and AFP say the local 'IS' affiliate claimed responsibility. – Sca (talk) 14:06, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - High casualty, hence notable as well - Sherenk1 (talk) 13:04, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Weak support - not the most comprehensive article imaginable but covers the bases satisfactorily. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 14:14, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted - Article may be short but that's about as much as major sources are reporting this morning, so should be fine. --Masem (t) 15:17, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
    Masem Don't link Afghanistan please. Common geographical location. Plus, consistency in the template too. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 15:24, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
    Fixed. --Masem (t) 15:27, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • What a terrible blurb. Who proposed this first blurb? – Ammarpad (talk) 15:36, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Snide. – Sca (talk) 20:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Post-posting comment – Still quite thin. – Sca (talk) 20:52, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
    • I spot checked the latest news on this and there's not much else to say, that doesn't get into politicizing the incident (which is mostly speculation on the current US-Afghanistan talks, which we shouldn't post.) --Masem (t) 20:56, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • User:Masem please make it 80 dead and 160 injured : src reuters--DBigXray 13:02, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
    • FWIW fixes like these should goes to WP:ERRORS (so more eyes see it). --Masem (t) 13:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
      • User:Masem thanks, I will post there as well. I would not call this an error. Current events are expected to evolve and would need updation accordingly. regards. --DBigXray 06:21, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Damodar Ganesh Bapat[edit]

Article: Damodar Ganesh Bapat (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NDTV

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Start Class article with excellent sourcing. Indian social worker. DBigXray 08:33, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

The Rambling Man thanks for the feedback, I have further expanded the article. --DBigXray 16:05, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - looks fine. -Zanhe (talk) 01:49, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • SupportAmmarpad (talk) 03:37, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 05:17, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

August 16[edit]

International relations
Law and crime
  • Death of Jeffrey Epstein
    • The death of accused sexual trafficker Jeffrey Epstein is ruled a suicide by hanging by the New York City Office of the Chief Medical Examiner. Epstein's attorneys say they will be conducting their own investigation into his death. (CNN)

RD: Richard Williams (animator)[edit]

Article: Richard Williams (animator) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BBC

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Nominator's comments: Multiple award-winning director. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 17:02, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose. Filmography needs more sourcing and there's no prose about his death, just a single reference in the lede. Spengouli (talk) 18:44, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

RD: José Nápoles[edit]

Article: José Nápoles (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): ESPN

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Boxing legend. " one of the greatest fighters of all time". Start Class article, sourcing needs some volunteers. DBigXray 15:16, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

RD: Peter Fonda[edit]

Article: Peter Fonda (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NBC News

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 Masem (t) 23:23, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Comment I can see someone arguing for a blurb here , but before we go that road, this is a poorly sourced article. And if someone tries to sweep the filmography (unsourced) to a separate article, that's not appropriate per recent discussion on the ITN talk page. Let's get this up to RD quality first before we talk a blurb. --Masem (t) 23:24, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose far from ready, but never a blurb in any situation. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 06:10, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
WP:DENY.--WaltCip (talk) 16:13, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
  • Support RD, support blurb We've posted some black woman writer I've never heard of a few weeks ago simoply because she was a black person with a Nobel prize (in literature!). Fonda clearly deserves a blurb then. 5.44.170.9 (talk) 07:51, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
I don't see the criteria that says if 5.44.170.9 hasn't heard of someone, they can't be posted. I think it's also mildly offensive that you indicate Morrison was posted because she was "some black woman" who received a Nobel prize. 331dot (talk) 10:03, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Find me another nobel prize in literature winner who's death was posted as a blurb on english wikipedia over the past 10-15 years. It's self evient she was only posted because she was 1) woman 2) black for anyone who isn't lying to themselves 5.44.170.9 (talk) 11:33, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
P.S. The fact that my comment is considered to be "offensive", and was even removed as such speaks volumes about the state of this website in 2019 as well as confirms what I said. No wonder the vote succeed, if all opposition is declared offensive and is immediately removed/banned from the website. 5.44.170.9 (talk) 11:36, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
We would have blurbed the first white man to win the Nobel Prize in Literature when he died too! Does knowing that make you feel better? --- Coffeeandcrumbs 11:55, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
If you don't like the state of Wikipedia, perhaps you should find somewhere else to spend your time and make your offensive statements. 331dot (talk) 12:07, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
@331dot and Coffeeandcrumbs: The IP is trolling. I deleted their original comment for race baiting, but was reverted. -Zanhe (talk) 19:36, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
The IP seems to be making a WP:POINT. If someone who knows how comes along it would be worth collapsing this convo.--Trans-Neptunian object (talk) 22:06, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb This blurbed death thing is getting out of control. Not every really famous person gets a blurb just because you like them. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:09, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
To note, I would be against this as a blurb myself, but was only cautioning here because of how his death was being handled in newspapers as "oh gosh, a major loss!", and wanted to address the major block to that point first. --Masem (t) 19:47, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Masem, I wanted to do the same thing. RD only. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:57, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose both Unsourced early life chunks, disproportionate Twitter beef, just OK in his field. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:01, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb As per Muboshgu--BoothSiftTalks 20:34, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb – In view of the subject's somewhat checkered film oeuvre. – Sca (talk) 20:47, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb I'm not seeing blurb-level fame here. Should be RD.--Trans-Neptunian object (talk) 22:06, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment The article is locked, but I've left my suggestions for CN resolutions on the talk page. It's a shame to see RD half-filled with barely-not-stubs of completely un-notable people, while a widely-recognized name gets left off. Oppose blurb, died of natural causes. I take that other IPs point, though, I think it better to not repeat mistakes.130.233.3.115 (talk) 06:50, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment is there a well-grounded reason why Fonda is still ignored in RD? --Biafra (talk) 13:49, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
    • RDs for the ITN box on main page must show a level of quality representative of what WP can be. Fonda's article remains drastically poorly sourced throughout, and no one has bothered to update it. --Masem (t) 13:52, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Felice Gimondi[edit]

Article: Felice Gimondi (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Sport Sky

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Nominator's comments: One of only seven cyclists to have won all three Grand Tours of road cycling (Tour de France, Giro d'Italia, and Vuelta a EspañaHolapaco77 (talk) 18:44, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Princess Christina of the Netherlands[edit]

Article: Princess Christina of the Netherlands (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NL times

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Start Class article. DBigXray 15:07, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose Early life section looks to be entirely unreferenced, and other issues thereafter. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 15:13, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. Article needs some spit polish in several areas. In the realm of referencing, there are many more inline cites needed. While some stuff is uncontroversial and easily verifiable (like the fact that she had three sisters, etc.) other stuff which is more open to interpretation or not readily available in the public record, like "Christina was a bright and happy child, with a considerable talent for music. She also had a capacity for languages and as a young girl delighted the visiting President of the French Republic, René Coty, by conversing fluently with him in French." and the information on the faith healer, and several other places, needs direct inline citations. Furthermore, the article is woefully incomplete, it looks like she did nothing of note between changing her name in 1963, getting married and having children in the 1970s, and dying in 2019. Surely in four decades there's something worth reporting that happened in there? It does need some work. --Jayron32 15:24, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Lets get people looking this article and fixing it! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:41, 16 August 2019 (UTC).
  • Support per improvements. Weak Oppose - A few missing citations left in a couple of sections, as editors above have pointed out. If this is resolved, please ignore this !vote or consider it a support !vote.  Vanilla  Wizard  💙 05:02, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Fixed all major issues. A lot of good work has been done by several editors to improve this. It needs a review again.--DBigXray 17:13, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose Still missing citations for some areas. Kingsif (talk) 17:35, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Fixed added more citations for the missing ones and expanded the article more. Now every major info is reliably sourced. please review. courtesy ping, The Rambling Man, User:Jayron32, User:Vanilla Wizard, Kingsif--DBigXray 18:19, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Great work, thank you! I've struck my previous comment and replaced my !vote.  Vanilla  Wizard  💙 19:35, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
User:Vanilla Wizard thanks for reconsidering your !vote. I have made some further improvements to the page as well. Hope it gets posted before getting archived --DBigXray 06:19, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Support – Looks good to go. Marked ready. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 06:24, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Posting. --Tone 07:50, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Tone, can someone give the credits. --DBigXray 12:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
now done by Tone.--DBigXray 13:05, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

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